Fast switching just the right-hand part of a split?

[Scott]

On a TR, is it possible to set up a simple split (combi) with left hand bass, in such a way that you can select some different right hand sounds on the fly with single buttons? That is, I want to be able to switch my RH from piano, to strings, to rhodes, each with a single button press, without interrupting the LH bass (which is why I don't want to make them all separate combis, I don't want to risk the bass cutting out when I switch RH sounds).

I can do this easily on the M50 (basically, leave the combi in Edit mode as you play, and just pick different sounds from the user group via the touchscreen(, but in a quick look, I couldn't find a way to do anything comparable on the TR. Is there a solution for this? (Otherwise, I prefer the TR over the M50 because of the aftertouch, assignable outs, and sample RAM.)

[billbaker]

Scott,

The same principle should hold true for combis in edit mode on a TR as the M3, provided you know the number of the program you want to go to. May not be a single push, but a data entry (#).

On the other hand, you could store the string of programs sequentially -- set up beforehand and stored in 3 adjacent locations (099-100-101) -- and then you could use the increment button (+/-) to move through them (single button push) once you were in edit mode with the moving voice track highlighted. The combi would be written so that the first voice you need is permanently stored / first up.

I can think of several other schemes you could try involving volume balance assignments to SW1/SW2, e.g., but I think that if you're doing the open edit switching method within combis on the M3 already that you should just stick with what you know.

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[Scott]

The same principle should hold true for combis in edit mode on a TR as the M3, provided you know the number of the program you want to go to. May not be a single push, but a data entry (#).

That would work perfectly if the "Hold 10s" feature could work for program selection in combi edit mode. Then I could have a set of 10 selectable RH sounds each a single-button-press away, and could switch to a different bank to access another 10. That's really *exactly* what I'd like to do, but unless I missed something, it doesn't seem possible.

But I suppose I could put them in a user bank, and if I called up that bank, then 1-enter, 2-enter, etc. would still give me access to 10 RH sounds of my choice, albeit with two presses instead of one, right? Would that work? I don't have access to the TR at the moment to try it.

[billbaker]

Increment (+/-) (I think there are 2 buttons for that) does not require "enter" which is why adjacent spaces, yes, in a user bank or at least some of the available init program slots, would be used. I personally never use the 10's hold button on my Trinity or either of my tritons because it requires vertical organization and my program changes almost never go that way.

I've had this discussion a number of times win the "fast program change" threads under triton, m3, m50 and other models.

The method I use is to build a user bank that's organized around the Alesis QS template -- it's similar to GM in that each instrument type (i.e., Korg Category) gets 10 adjacent slots: Piano = 000-009, Chromatic Keys (Clav, EP, glock, vibes) = 010-019, Organs = 020-029, etc.

[It's a mnemonic system - you can adopt it or invent your own based on what instrument types you use most often.]

Once you've used it for a while and especially if you take the time to practice, you can pull up just about any voice in the bank very quickly without searching and with few errors (like I said practice, man, practice). For example, if I know I want a string patch I know they're all 50-something and I know where it is in that within that block of 10 so I can find the one I need... dit-dit-enter -- very fast.


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[Scott]

Increment (+/-) (I think there are 2 buttons for that) does not require "enter" which is why adjacent spaces, yes, in a user bank or at least some of the available init program slots, would be used.

I don't always use the same sounds in the same sequence, hence my desire to switch among a wider variety of sounds with a single button press. For example, I may be playing a Rhodes sound, and want to get to an organ, strings, brass, or flute... and get to any of them with s single button. That's why I wish "10s Hold" worked while in "open edit" mode.

I personally never use the 10's hold button...because it requires vertical organization and my program changes almost never go that way.
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each instrument type (i.e., Korg Category) gets 10 adjacent slots: Piano = 000-009, Chromatic Keys (Clav, EP, glock, vibes) = 010-019, Organs = 020-029, etc.

I think "10s Hold" can kind of work with in conjunction with that organization as well. I mean, I understand the idea of wanting all your pianos to have something in common, all your chrom keys, all your organs... but instead of having their center digit in common, the organization is just as easy to remember if you have the rightmost digit in common, so you maintain the same advantage, even with what I think you're calling a vertical organization. For example, let's say all your pianos end in 1 (01, 11, 21, 31...), all your chromatic keys end in 2, all your organs end in 3. You still have the benefit of that quick, obvious mental categorization that you like... but you'd also be able to use 10s Hold so that you'd have one-button access to, in this case, a piano under key 1, a chromatic key under 2, and an organ under 3. So maybe you get the advantage of both approaches that way.