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Software to read what's in a .set file?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:27 am
by Fransman
Is there any (free) tool (software) available to see what's in a Korg .set file on a computer?
It must be there, I guess, but I can't find it anywhere.

:?:

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:43 am
by WAVEXtractor
click on the link below;

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:39 am
by Fransman
Yes, I know, but I'm looking for a tool that's for free.
I don't want the extra's (not yet, that is).

8)

Something like PAL Viewer? http://pal-viewer.iwdownload.com/
I can't find it on the web anymore and the links don't work.

Does somebody know if this is still available somewhere?

I think Korg should provide a simple tool to be able to read what's in .set files (on a computer).
That would make things so much easier.
Now I have to load a .set in the PA, write down what's in it (2012!), and load the next one.
Not so elegant, Korg, or am I missing something here?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:48 am
by Sam CA
I don't know about you, but i'm willing to pay whatever the fair price is to get a PA Librarian that is truly a Librarian.

NOT interested in a sample editor, sample convertor, youtube downloader, another DAW ......... and so on. There's already tons of software in the market that can handle all this very well.

It's not enough just to see what's inside a set. If we're not gonna be able to edit, manage and move things around within a Set, and/or from one Set to another, then, I don't see how this or any other software can be considered useful for a PA user.

Hopefully the pro version will be THE ONE!

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:37 am
by Fransman
Assyrianpianist wrote: i'm willing to pay whatever the fair price is to get a PA Librarian that is truly a Librarian.
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with you.
Korg has for some reason chosen for the complicated .set - system way of handling data.
So I think they should provide us with a free and easy-to-use tool to handle these things.
And yes, I agree, that includes edit, manage and move things around.

Korg probably use some sort of software for this themselves, so why not share it with their loyal customers?

8)

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:39 pm
by Thoraldus
Fransman wrote:
(SNIP)

Korg probably use some sort of software for this themselves, so why not share it with their loyal customers?
Probably not. My guess is they're still paying some third party guru to do it the way we have to. ;-)

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:57 pm
by Sam CA
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I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with you.
Korg has for some reason chosen for the complicated .set - system way of handling data.
So I think they should provide us with a free and easy-to-use tool to handle these things.
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Well, I don't know how, but looks like somehow you missed whole bunch of threads that already discussed the same thing over the years. There's threads dating back to i3 talking about the very same thing, so you're very late to have an opinion about this to be honest. You're too late to agree or disagree with this.

Korg providing you with a free Librarian software??? NEVER going to happen! I'll let you dig out the threads to find that for yourself.

Like it or not, Wavextractor Pro is your only chance at the moment. Nobody knows what it is yet, but we're going to find out soon. If you still feel this is not how things should be done, or you should wait till you get a free software, then, you're really out of luck.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:48 pm
by Fransman
Assyrianpianist wrote: so you're very late to have an opinion about this to be honest. You're too late to agree or disagree with this.
:roll:

:shock:

:3drofl:

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:41 pm
by Sam CA
oh well, hopefully you'll have a lot of fun as you're waiting for the freebie from Korg. Let us know how's that working out for you from time to time :wink:


bye!

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:55 am
by charlie67
for PAL go to Keith Ball's website at korgpa2xpro.yolasite.com/

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:55 pm
by Fransman
charlie67 wrote:for PAL go to Keith Ball's website at korgpa2xpro.yolasite.com/
Thanks for the tip; unfortunately I also couldn't find it there.

But... one of the forum members was so helpful and kind to send me the program by e-mail.
Simple little program, but it sure makes it a lot easier to see which styles and performances are in a .set file.

Thank you so much! :D

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:13 pm
by Aaad
I use Totalcommander to go through the maps and use the build in txt reader to see what's in a file.
Kind a spartan method but it works for me.
May be Freecommander (freeware) works too.

Aad

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:49 am
by charlie67
OK Fransman. For anyone else who wants this software, go to http://korgpa2xpro.yolasite.com/ and then, left click on Software, then Mick Barry Progs Zip (XRM, style organiser, and PAL, style viewer).

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:13 am
by Fransman
Not so strange I couldn't find it there...
who would expect that for "PAL viewer", you need to click on "Mick Barry Progs Zip"? :?
But I'm sorry, no offence, Keith, you have created a marvelous website!

I still think Korg should provide this (or a far better) tool on korgpa.com.
Even the new PA3X operates with the .set system...

Yamaha players will be shocked when they need to get used to this.
They are used to the fact that a "style" is just a file (that you can copy, paste, rename, load etc).

I rest my case.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:28 pm
by Thoraldus
Fransman wrote:Not so strange I couldn't find it there...
who would expect that for "PAL viewer", you need to click on "Mick Barry Progs Zip"? :?
But I'm sorry, no offence, Keith, you have created a marvelous website!

I still think Korg should provide this (or a far better) tool on korgpa.com.
Even the new PA3X operates with the .set system...

Yamaha players will be shocked when they need to get used to this.
They are used to the fact that a "style" is just a file (that you can copy, paste, rename, load etc).

I rest my case.
Korg PA style files can be copied, pasted, renamed and loaded. A "SET" is nothing but a directory of directories of files. It's just the method KORG uses to organize resources for the PA keyboards. When KORG saves a SET they will use standardized file names but you don't HAVE to. You just have to make sure the file suffixes are correct, i.e. .STY for a style.

For example ...

[MYNEWSET.SET] << a directory
...[STYLES] << a directory
.../...USER01.STY << a style file
...[SONGBOOK] << a directory
.../...SONGDB.SBD << a songbook database file
.../...LISTDB.SBL << a songbook list file

A SET may only contain one element like a set of styles or even a single style. In fact you can load a single style from a style file that is not embeded in a SET directory. I have some style files named like this ...

FASTSWING.STY
34ViennaWaltz.STY

etc.

Hope this helps.