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88 Key Controller with 61 Kronos?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:30 am
by mcm
Hello All,
I hope this topic hasn't already been covered already (I did a search, but no dice). So my question is, can I use an 88 Key MIDI controller with a 61 key Kronos and get the full range of notes on the 88 key?
I had a chance to play on the StudioLogic Numa with graded hammer action wooden keys, and it felt Excellent!
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Studiologic ... 1475490.gc
So I want to use that as my main keybed for piano. I already have an 88 key Kronos, but would rather go with a 61 key so i'd have less weight to lug around. And, when I need to do a quick run up the keys, I can use the lighter semi-weighted keys of the 61, seems like a perfect combo.
I also really like the feel of the Roland RD-700NX keys and am considering using that as my main keybed also.
So is it possible to use a controllers full 88 keys, when the Kronos is only 61 keys? Any help will be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
Mike
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:57 am
by markn
Yes, you can!
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:37 pm
by mcm
Excellent! Thanks for the info!
Mike
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:55 pm
by ferchis
that's what I do, I have the K61 and control it with a Casio px330 piano, a great choice of keys and smooth sounds together!
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:53 pm
by MarPabl
You just double check that the controller supports after touch (used for many synth engines) as well as release velocity (used for SGX-1 with mechanical noises)
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:17 pm
by mcm
MarPabl wrote:You just double check that the controller supports after touch (used for many synth engines) as well as release velocity (used for SGX-1 with mechanical noises)
Ah, great point! Yes, I will double check the controllers. Thanks!
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:24 pm
by michelkeijzers
Release velocity is probably hard to find, but useful for the piano's, because otherwise it is advised to set some values (like mechanical noise) to 0. Otherwise 127 is used as release velocity making the note-off sound reasonably hard.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:24 pm
by PianoManChuck
ferchis wrote:that's what I do, I have the K61 and control it with a Casio px330 piano, a great choice of keys and smooth sounds together!
I still use a Casio Privia PX330... one of my all time favorites, and my first choice to take to any gigs (don't have to worry about it during breaks like I would with the Kronos or a Nord), and it plays beautifully!
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:08 am
by Ojustaboo
Also do you need the pitch bend wheel/joystick
Maybe I missed it, but didn't see one on the studio logic.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:13 am
by mcm
Ojustaboo wrote:Also do you need the pitch bend wheel/joystick
Maybe I missed it, but didn't see one on the studio logic.
Yeah, unfortunately, the place it in a real odd spot, it is on the left side of the keyboard.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:40 am
by MarPabl
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:07 am
by ferchis
I still can't believe they put the pitch bend wheel THERE!!! hahaahaha, it's hilarious!
Note off
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:26 pm
by JPROBERTLA
If you don't use a controller with release velocity, the Kronos is set to default at 64. This only affects the pianos and has not been a problem for me, as I use a Triton Studio88 as a weighted controller with the Kronos.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:50 pm
by ferchis
I haven't had any problems with the Privia. Is release velocity really that important? I don't know whether the px330 has it
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:32 pm
by mcm
ferchis wrote:I haven't had any problems with the Privia. Is release velocity really that important? I don't know whether the px330 has it
release velocity would be nice, but the most important for me is of course is the feel of the weighted keys, tweakable velocity curves, and aftertouch. Having release velocity would be a nice bonus... I do like the mechanical sound of releasing the keys on the Kronos, but I'd be fine with the default release velocity...