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Resolution of Repeated System Failures

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:02 am
by Mthomashow
About a month ago I sent a note out on this forum describing my experience with repeated system failures. Several people responded that the problem could be caused by (1) poorly seated RAM (2) corrupted hard drive necessitating a reinstall.

As I am not one to open these instruments and not a fix-it sort, I sent it to Sweetwater (two year warranty). It turns out that it was simply a matter of doing the reinstallation. I have the KRONOS back now and it seems to be working fine.

I mention this for three reasons. First, I very much appreciate how folks on this forum stepped up to offer suggestions. Second, I think it's helpful for the forum to generate solutions to problems. And then third......

While the KRONOS was away, I had plenty of time to use my Nord Stage Classic and Nord Wave. They are both great instruments and I very much enjoyed the absence of the KRONOS which gave me a chance to spend more time with the NORDS.

Now that the KRONOS is back, I realize again what an incredible sounding instrument it is. The depth and richness of the sounds is simply stunning. And the ability to use the various sound engines (I especially enjoy the MOD-7 and the STR-1) is terrific. I found that with the NORDS I spent more time playing and practicing and with the KRONOS I am easily distracted by sound exploration. Even after a year plus of playing the KRONOS (I am not a power user) I have barely scratched the surface of the amazing programming on the presets.

Upon its return I felt as if I was getting a new instrument again!

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:46 am
by Sharp
Delighted to hear this.
So, a simple OS install did the trick.

For what it's worth, buy a UPS so you can ensure your KRONOS runs always under optimal conditions.

Another tip, before you switch off the power, always make sure no sound is being produced as that could cause the Solid State to be still streaming, and you don't want to cut the power to that while it's still busy.

Regards
Sharp.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:17 pm
by Phabius
Another tip, before you switch off the power, always make sure no sound is being produced as that could cause the Solid State to be still streaming, and you don't want to cut the power to that while it's still busy.
Good tip! :)


I have a Stage Classic, and three other Nords. I would sell them only to get the recent Nord models, nothing else. I love the pianos in Kronos, but I just can't stop using the Nord's Studio Grand. They both have the same apparent sound quality, but I like the bottom end of the Nord better, the harmonics just explode out when you hammer the keys!

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:00 pm
by JuneauUnderground
Phabius wrote:but I just can't stop using the Nord's Studio Grand. They both have the same apparent sound quality . . .
Ahhh . . . Another Nord lover. I have the Nord 88 and I feel the same. Well sorta. I do love my Nord. Really! Especially the actual keybed itself. However, I finally discovered the actual Kronos pianos when I MIDIed the Nord 88 into the Kronos 61. Talk about sound explosion. The Nord weighted action and full velocity and steaming samples from the Korg German man o man. It's was like playing two completely different instruments comparing the Korg pianos played with the 61 key synth action and then the Nord 88 weighted keyboard.

When I first got my K, the pianos sounded ok allbeit i thought a little cheesy frankly. I couldn't figure out what the big deal was. I thought the Nord, head to head, sounded better, or at least different. Now my Nord I think has been relegated to just the weighted keybed controller. I'm seriously looking at the SGX1 Austrian Grand now.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:24 pm
by danmusician
JuneauUnderground wrote:
Phabius wrote:but I just can't stop using the Nord's Studio Grand. They both have the same apparent sound quality . . .
Ahhh . . . Another Nord lover. I have the Nord 88 and I feel the same. Well sorta. I do love my Nord. Really! Especially the actual keybed itself. However, I finally discovered the actual Kronos pianos when I MIDIed the Nord 88 into the Kronos 61. Talk about sound explosion. The Nord weighted action and full velocity and steaming samples from the Korg German man o man. It's was like playing two completely different instruments comparing the Korg pianos played with the 61 key synth action and then the Nord 88 weighted keyboard.

When I first got my K, the pianos sounded ok allbeit i thought a little cheesy frankly. I couldn't figure out what the big deal was. I thought the Nord, head to head, sounded better, or at least different. Now my Nord I think has been relegated to just the weighted keybed controller. I'm seriously looking at the SGX1 Austrian Grand now.
I very much encourage you to download the sample version of the Austrian before you buy. I wish I had. I probably wouldn't have bought it. I'm not knocking it, some people love it. I haven't found a use for it yet. To me the instrument doesn't sound like I remember a Bosendorfer sounding. Your mileage may vary. :wink:

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:25 pm
by danmusician
Sharp wrote:Delighted to hear this.

Another tip, before you switch off the power, always make sure no sound is being produced as that could cause the Solid State to be still streaming, and you don't want to cut the power to that while it's still busy.

Regards
Sharp.
Excellent tip!!! I hadn't thought of that before. Don't think I've done it, but will be sure not to in the future.

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:49 pm
by mathieumaes
Sharp wrote: Another tip, before you switch off the power, always make sure no sound is being produced as that could cause the Solid State to be still streaming, and you don't want to cut the power to that while it's still busy.
Technically speaking I doubt this can cause any trouble, because:
- it's only "reading" from the drive... switching it off while writing is a totally different story, and you WILL lose data :-)
- Regular HDD's have physical moving parts... If you switch it off while the HDD is busy, it may cause the optical lense to collide with one of the discs and it may scratch it.

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:06 pm
by Sharp
mathieumaes wrote: - it's only "reading" from the drive... switching it off while writing is a totally different story, and you WILL lose data :-)
Are you 110% sure of that ?
I've seen hard disks being corrupt from this when they were guaranteed only reading data.

What make you so sure this cannot happen to a solid state drive as the power is sucked from it during reading.

Regards
Sharp.

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:39 pm
by 1jordyzzz
about solid state drive, AFAIK it will not lose data if you turned it off while it still reading.. another story for writing.. nevertheless, its better to have any hardware turned off while it's idle..

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:11 pm
by Thoraldus
From the manual

Never turn off the power while data is being written into internal memory. The display will show the message “Now writing into internal memory” when
this is in progress.

Never turn off the power while media such as the internal drive is being accessed, such as while recording or playing audio tracks, or sampling to disk for an extended time. Turning off the power while disk access is occurring may render the media unusable. The DISK LED shows when the internal drive is being accessed.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:46 pm
by Sharp
Thoraldus wrote:From the manual

Never turn off the power while data is being written into internal memory. The display will show the message “Now writing into internal memory” when
this is in progress.

Never turn off the power while media such as the internal drive is being accessed, such as while recording or playing audio tracks, or sampling to disk for an extended time. Turning off the power while disk access is occurring may render the media unusable. The DISK LED shows when the internal drive is being accessed.
Thank you for quoting that. You can't get more crystal clear than that.

Regards
Sharp.