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OS X/FTP

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:55 am
by Lou
Sorry if this has been posted already, I searched but didn't find anything specific.
I was wondering if I can utilize the built in FTP of OSX.
This seems to be a good option but I just read an article that it may not be as safe as downloading an FTP program.

Any input appreciated. Thanks.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:13 am
by EddyDeegan
Using the built-in FTP on OS X should be absolutely fine and no more inherently dangerous than any other method. The only thing is that it's command-line driven, not drag 'n drop, so it's more suitable for people who are comfortable using command lines. Personally, I'd use it.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:32 am
by SeedyLee
Should be absolutely fine Lou - I've found the Mac OS X FTP client to be just fine, and generlly more reliable than the Mac OS X FileZilla client, for example.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:32 am
by Lou
Thanks for the replies. If I'm not happy with OS X's FTP I guess I can always just download one of the other programs.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:23 am
by EddyDeegan
If you do, I find filezilla pretty nifty - http://filezilla-project.org/ ... but unless you want to manage/keep track of lots of files simultaneously, for quick FTP it's much more efficient doing it on the command line :)

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:10 am
by mathieumaes
FileZilla is free and it's the best FTP client out there (in my oppinion).

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:18 am
by BobTheDog
EddyDeegan wrote:Using the built-in FTP on OS X should be absolutely fine and no more inherently dangerous than any other method. The only thing is that it's command-line driven, not drag 'n drop, so it's more suitable for people who are comfortable using command lines. Personally, I'd use it.

Not really true, right click on the finder icon and select "Connect To Server" then enter the ftp address in the format:

ftp://username:password@ftpaddress



This will mount the ftp site as a disk, then just use finder however you want, drag and drop etc.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:36 am
by markn
I´m working successfully with Cyberduck.

http://www.cyberduck.ch

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:39 am
by BobTheDog
BobTheDog wrote:
EddyDeegan wrote:Using the built-in FTP on OS X should be absolutely fine and no more inherently dangerous than any other method. The only thing is that it's command-line driven, not drag 'n drop, so it's more suitable for people who are comfortable using command lines. Personally, I'd use it.

Not really true, right click on the finder icon and select "Connect To Server" then enter the ftp address in the format:

ftp://username:password@ftpaddress



This will mount the ftp site as a disk, then just use finder however you want, drag and drop etc.

Actually this is rubbish, I just tried this with my kronos and it mounts it as read only so this doesn't work.

Sorry for this!

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:55 pm
by Lou
BobTheDog wrote: Actually this is rubbish, I just tried this with my kronos and it mounts it as read only so this doesn't work.

Sorry for this!
Are there any admin preferences that can be changed to read and write?
I don't have the adapter as of yet so I cannot try it out, thanks.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:15 pm
by BobTheDog
Nope unfortunately not from the look of it, I was surprised when I tried to write to it and it didn't work.

FileZilla is available for OSX though and that works pretty well.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:21 pm
by BobTheDog
If you want a finder based approach you could use http://macfusionapp.org/ this uses fuse http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/ which I have had problems with before and tend to steer clear of.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:52 pm
by Lou
Thanks Bob I'll probably wind up with one of the above..

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:52 am
by danatkorg
First - it may be helpful to read the Parameter Guide's section on the Network tab. It includes this information on the first page:

"Mac OS X supports FTP volumes as read‐only disks within the Finder. For full read and write support, a third‐party FTP client application is required; a variety of free and paid applications are available."

Personally, I use Transmit, which is a commercial program.

The free and open-source Cyberduck also gets extremely good reviews, and it's quite easy to use. It's available for both MacOS and Windows. I've written a first draft of instructions for its use; let me know if these work well for you.

To set up ftp with the KRONOS and Cyberduck:

* ON THE KRONOS

1. Go to the Global Network page.

2. In the TCP/IP section, make sure that the following settings still have their default values:

Hostname = kronos
Address Method = DHCP

If necessary, press the "Configure" button and change them back to these default settings.

3. In the FTP section, set the Username and Password as desired.

* ON YOUR COMPUTER

1. Download the software from here:
http://cyberduck.ch/

2. Install the software:
2a. On the Mac, drag the software into your Applications folder.
2b. On Windows, use the wizard to install the software. Enable the "Install Bonjour" option; this provides support for zero-configuration networking.

3. Start the software.

4. In the window that appears, click on the plus button (" + ") in the lower-left-hand corner of the screen.

This brings up a window to add a bookmark. In this window:

5. Set the Nickname to KRONOS.

6. Set the Server to "kronos.local" (without the quotes).

7. Enter the Username you created in step 3 under "ON THE KRONOS," above.

8. Close the window.

9. Double-click on the new KRONOS icon in the main window.

A dialog will appear, asking for your password.

10. Enter the Password you created in step 3 under "ON THE KRONOS," above.

A window will appear, showing one or two SSDs, depending on how many you have installed in your KRONOS.

11. Double-click an SSD to open it in Cyberduck.

You can now use Cyberduck to transfer files between the KRONOS and your computer. You can also use ftp to create folders and move and rename files on the KRONOS.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:06 am
by Lou
Thank you Dan, this is going to be extremly helpful for me and others reading this thread..
I couldn't have asked for a more concise reply to my pondering the FTP setup. Will have a read on the Parameter Guide also.
Very much appreciated.