the M3 and MIDI markers question...

[miden]

I am pretty sure the M3 sequencer mode does not recognise MIDI markers (these are markers placed in a file at certain points and one can jump to the instantly - perfect for adding an extra chorus or two at a gig when folks decide to dance during the last 8 bars of a song!!!)

Can anyone advise me of another method? Is there a way to be able to use some form of looping, or jump points with the M3 sequencer? And can these be assigned to a switch or panel button/controller?

Thanks

[Bald Eagle]

You might be able to use the locate button. You specify the the Measure (001–999), Beat (01–16), and Tick (000–479) using the Set Location menu option. Then when you press the Locate button the sequencer will jump to that location.

The location is only temporary and does not get stored with each song. Another possibility might be to use RPPR to send a SysEx command but I don't know what that command might be.

[miden]

Thanks B.E.

Yeah the locate would have been a good option if it could be saved with the song...even one "jump to" mark would have been useful...

Maybe someone can advise the sysex command needed to do it? RPPR might be a way???

[Bald Eagle]

According to the midi implementation section in the Parameter Guide the location is set with a System Common Message with the following format ...

F2 ss tt

F2 - Song Position Pointer
ss - Least significant [LSB] *5
tt - Most significant [MSB] *5
*5 : For example, if time signature is 4/4 or 8/8, tt,ss = 00,10 means one measure.

I verified this by pressing the Locate button and monitoring the midi output. The problem is I can't find a way to enter this command into the M3 sequencer. If you use the Create Excl Data menu command it wraps everything with F0 ... F7 and there doesn't seem to be anyway to remove it.

[miden]

F0 and F7 are compulsory with Sysex - the strings won't work correctly if not there.

F0 tells the Rx device to prepare for a sysex message, and the F7 tells it the message is complete..So that is no surprise...

They do say in some Korg spiel somewhere I read, that the sysex editor on the M3 is actually quite good and easy to use...

I might investigate further now that you have confirmed it...although a bit of math required to sort out what is need for differing time signatures..

Thanks for you replies, much appreciated..

[kisse2katt]

Hi Dennis!

Have you tried the Cue List function on page 101 in the M3 operation guide
maybe you can jump between the song parts in a Cue List made
as Intro, Verse, Chorus and Ending.
I have not tried this but that may work.

Regards Tom T

[miden]

Cheers Tom, no I haven't but worth a try

Dennis

[miden]

A follow up question to using the RPPR function...

Is it possible to import existing MIDI patterns into it?

My thinking here is to import drum and bass parts for various sections of a song.

I cannot find a specific instruction for doing this in the manual.

Thanks

[Bald Eagle]

You can load standard midi files into the sequencer. Select Media mode and press the Load tab. Find the midi file you want and load it. Each file is loaded as a separate song.

The section "Media: Menu Command" in the parameter guide has info about loading differnt file types (around page 398).

[miden]

Thanks B.E.

I did find that section, but I was looking more specifically at inserting various sections.

I guess what I would need to do is split the midi song into its various sections in my DAW (Sonar in my case) and then save each section as a separate midi file and then load these in. Then assign each section I want to a key.

Pity they cannot be assigned to a pad!!!

Cheers

[Bald Eagle]

You can assign RPPR to a pad but indirectly. Setup the RPPR pattern and assign it to a key. Then setup a pad to play the trigger key.

And although you could use the M3 sequencer to edit and split the midi file it will definately be easier in Sonar.

[miden]

Cool, thanks m8

[jwillis35]

Thanks B.E.

I did find that section, but I was looking more specifically at inserting various sections.

I guess what I would need to do is split the midi song into its various sections in my DAW (Sonar in my case) and then save each section as a separate midi file and then load these in. Then assign each section I want to a key.

Pity they cannot be assigned to a pad!!!

Cheers

Sorry this is way late, but just FYI...

You can actually import your entire MIDI file into the M3 without cutting it up in a DAW. Save the .mid file to your USB stick. Insert the stick into the M3. Go to media and load that midi file into your sequencer. The whole file should be imported into the SEQ.

At this point you can go to PAGE SELECT and choose Pattern/RPPR. Within the Pattern Edit tab you can pull down as much as you want from a track.

For Example:
1. In Pattern Edit tab, set the track at the top
2. Then select "User" for type of Pattern
3. Then select the pattern number you wish to apply your new pattern to
4. Set the tempo and any quantization you wish (if at all)
5. Go to Menu -> Pattern Parameter
6. In this menu you first want to set how many measures to bring in, and the meter (4/4, etc.)
7. Then go back to MENU -> Get From Track
8. Here you will decide from what song, what track, and what measure to begin taking your pattern
9. Tap the Start/Stop button and you should hear your pattern.

You can cut up and entire preloaded, or M3-recorded, MIDI sequence into many patterns by using this technique.