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How can we get the file format of style?
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:36 pm
by ismaximum
Hi All,
How can we find the format of style and sound file?
I am a computer programmer so I was thinking if I have the format of the file I can create a software to manage the styles and sounds.
Does anybody know whether these sort of information is open and available or does Korg give this data to users?
Thanks
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:32 pm
by Rob Sherratt
I made the same request to Korg and the information is not forthcoming. Encryption and compression is used and my guess is that Korg will not disclose the details. I heard a rumor some years ago that is was based on LZW algorithms, but even if it is, you still need to know the encryption key.
Regards,
Rob
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:28 pm
by ismaximum
Rob Sherratt wrote:I made the same request to Korg and the information is not forthcoming. Encryption and compression is used and my guess is that Korg will not disclose the details. I heard a rumor some years ago that is was based on LZW algorithms, but even if it is, you still need to know the encryption key.
Regards,
Rob
Thanks Rob... but then how those companies like EMC and Xtractor are able to decode the file? Probably they sell these sort of information to third parties.. I don't know but at least they can be clear whether they do this or not!
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:14 pm
by Rob Sherratt
I believe it is the Style file structure that is the most difficult, though clearly EMC and Korg know all about it. Korg Italy are just declining to communicate with programmers such as you and me. I am being stonewalled. Maybe you will have more success.
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:37 am
by WAVEXtractor
Wave Xtractor is already offering this.. (partially)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:12 am
by Rob Sherratt
The partial style manager functionality offered by WaveXtractor does not permit "style management" because there is no facility to move styles between different files. All you can do is modify the locations within a single Style file. Nor is there a facility to repair linkages from styles to user sounds.
In its present form, I am sorry to report that it is useless to musicians - it needs some serious enhancement which WaveXtractor are unable to commit to do.
Thanks,
Rob
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:11 pm
by Shahin
Thank you so much for building this style manager. I just bought it and I want to congratulate you on your development. At 15 GBP it is a real bargain and I think all Pa users should have it as an essential item. I will help you with publicity because your pricing is so reasonable.
I would like to ask Admin's to create a new topic, say "WaveXtractor Sound and Style Manager for Pa series". If we do this, will you be willing to add information and answers? Also will you be willing to consider feature requests to assist in your ongoing development?
SARCASM?!! or not.......? (just wondering)
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:42 pm
by Rob Sherratt
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:49 pm
by Shahin
wavwxtractor has been around for a while Rob. i wanted to know if you just found out about it and you truly enjoyed it and hence your comment or you knew about it before and your post was a sarcasm and you believed quite the opposite of what you said.
i dont have any experince with this software but also i know you were searching for a long time for the encryption so i thought maybe you already knew about wavexractor so i was just wondering, sarcasm or not?
is xtractor really good?
format
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:17 am
by duby2
this person did make and might know tthe style format , just look at what he did for the pa2x
Riccardo ESERCITATO
Via Cossar 5/5
34170 Gorizia (Italia)
Tel: 0039 340 5634033
Fax: 0039 0481 536889
Email Address:
ricky@oggi.it
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:56 pm
by Rob Sherratt
Shahin wrote:is xtractor really good?
I updated my post about WaveXtractor's Pa style manager. Sorry to have initially been enthusiastic about this. It is useless.
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:14 pm
by ismaximum
Rob Sherratt wrote:Shahin wrote:is xtractor really good?
I updated my post about WaveXtractor's Pa style manager. Sorry to have initially been enthusiastic about this. It is useless.
Yes I already checked wave xtractor. It's not what I'm after.
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:43 am
by Sam CA
ismaximum wrote:Yes I already checked wave xtractor. It's not what I'm after.
I'm sure that's not what Wave Xtractor had in mind either. All attempts have failed and hit the brick wall so far. I'm no software programmer, but it seems to me this is a dead end and most likely you too will end up developing another piece of software that will come short of delivering the main ideas. Unless Korg steps up to the plate and does something about this, there's not much anybody can do.
Re: format
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:28 am
by ismaximum
duby2 wrote:this person did make and might know tthe style format , just look at what he did for the pa2x
Riccardo ESERCITATO
Via Cossar 5/5
34170 Gorizia (Italia)
Tel: 0039 340 5634033
Fax: 0039 0481 536889
Email Address:
ricky@oggi.it
Thanks.. but the email is invalid.
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:06 pm
by AntonySharmman
Restless programmers with java knowledge , you can examine the outdated LeLibby application where you can find
information of korg's format and encryption since it was the most brilliant and freeware third-party PCG editor !