TEControl USB Breath Controller

phattbuzz · Post by **phattbuzz** » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:03 pm

http://tecontrol.se/index_files/USBMIDI ... roller.htm

Just found this while looking for a Yamaha BC3 substitute. I wonder if it could work with the Kronos without having a computer between the two?

ed_f · Post by **ed_f** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:25 am

Appears that it might, that seems pretty cool

.Jens · Post by **.Jens** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:20 am

I had a discussion about that device lately. There is one quite important fact to mention, if you consider it as a replacement: The tiny little thing works with static pressure instead of flow (as usual) - so you do not really blow "through" the device but into it. It's like you blow into a closed tube or just pump up your cheeks with your mouth shut.

It will be a very different playing experience from what you are used to, I guess.

Regarding some statements on the web, you can drill a vent hole into the mouthpiece to allow for a little bleed - but I am not sure if this would preserve the whole accessible pressure range the device is designed for...

phattbuzz · Post by **phattbuzz** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:12 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-U44kNtmI
Good review on the unit.

carlotta · Post by **carlotta** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:15 pm

.Jens wrote:I had a discussion about that device lately. There is one quite important fact to mention, if you consider it as a replacement: The tiny little thing works with static pressure instead of flow (as usual) - so you do not really blow "through" the device but into it. It's like you blow into a closed tube or just pump up your cheeks with your mouth shut.

It will be a very different playing experience from what you are used to, I guess.

Regarding some statements on the web, you can drill a vent hole into the mouthpiece to allow for a little bleed - but I am not sure if this would preserve the whole accessible pressure range the device is designed for...

I ordered one a couple of days ago and am looking forward to getting it. The manual says that it can be used in both static pressure and flow mode, using the optional bleed valve that is included with it.

Some more on this forum: http://www.vi-control.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30300

I originally thought I wouldn't use the little air release valve that comes with the controller as I'm not really a wind player. It makes it a LOT easier for me to use!
You can also tongue note attacks with it, which I was unable to do w/o it.

I would encourage anyone to install it, you can simply shut off the air flow if you want the other behavior.

And there is also a review http://www.filmmusicmag.com/?p=11085

NavidSyed · Post by **NavidSyed** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:30 pm

I ordered one as well, would it work directly with KRONOS? wont matter to me much as I will use it with my VST's

Scatter · Post by **Scatter** » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:40 pm

Been wanting something like this for a while, thanks for the heads up.

burningbusch · Post by **burningbusch** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:14 am

Thanks, got one on order. Be cool if it connects directly into the K.

Busch.

phattbuzz · Post by **phattbuzz** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:30 am

burningbusch wrote:Thanks, got one on order. Be cool if it connects directly into the K.

Busch.

If it does, I'll certainly order one. Not into soft synths, but this could be cooler than the discontinued Yamahas!

mm-pro · Post by **mm-pro** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:36 pm

I just ordered one as well. The device is supposedly class compliant, so I think there is a good chance we can directly connect it.

Regards,

MM

ak · Post by ak » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:44 pm

Hi,

I have developed a converter box for Yamaha BC to use the EXPRESSION PEDAL rather than MIDI or BC input.

http://kelfar.net/prod17.htm

The good news....I have developed a new Breath Controller (BCK-1) and it has more features than the original Yamaha BC3A.

Here are some images and real demo:

and a demo using the actual BCK-1 with the BCXP PRO connected to Korg Extreme and the input of the Expression Pedal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRlCxK3K ... 6w&index=1

carlotta · Post by **carlotta** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:59 am

ak wrote: The good news....I have developed a new Breath Controller (BCK-1) and it has more features than the original Yamaha BC3A.

Hi I looked at your website but I can't find it. Does it need a conversion box like the midi solutions? How much does it cost? How can one buy it?

Thanks,
Carlotta

ed_f · Post by **ed_f** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:22 pm

carlotta wrote:
ak wrote: The good news....I have developed a new Breath Controller (BCK-1) and it has more features than the original Yamaha BC3A.
Hi I looked at your website but I can't find it. Does it need a conversion box like the midi solutions? How much does it cost? How can one buy it?

Thanks,
Carlotta

I could be wrong, I was confused by the site. But I thought it said you have to have the yamaha mouth piece and he has the controller that you plug into. If that is the case the original item from this post will be of the most interest to people.

phattbuzz · Post by **phattbuzz** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:12 pm

carlotta wrote:
ak wrote: The good news....I have developed a new Breath Controller (BCK-1) and it has more features than the original Yamaha BC3A.
Hi I looked at your website but I can't find it. Does it need a conversion box like the midi solutions? How much does it cost? How can one buy it?

Thanks,
Carlotta

From looking at the video, it appears he has both a midi conversion box and a breath controller. It appears that the breath controller is held on with a rather bulky harmonica holder, however. I'm thinking the first post may be a more elegant solution if connects/works directly with the Kronos. If it does work, can it be fine tuned by using an AMS mixer in the Kronos? Really haven't done much work with AMS yet, but this appears to be where you could tailor the controller to your breathing. Or does someone have a better idea for that?

ak · Post by ak » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:51 pm

Hi,

I am using the Expression Pedal converter box(by Kelfar Technologies) for the BC3a (discontinued model from Yamaha).

In process and production, the new BCK-1 by Kelfar Technologies.

The demos of the BCK-1 and the harmonica holder was used for the purpose of the DEMO and it does not come with the BCK-1. I know it looks weird...

Instead of using MIDI, I am using the Expression Pedal input of any keyboard.

Check this diagram:

As soon as the product is ready, I will let you know.

BEST
KELFAR