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M50 software editor issues - recalling wrong patches + more

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 1:53 pm
by nik1
Hi there,

I've had some problems with my m50 since upgrading my computer, I knew it would be a difficult task, hence why I put off switching to windows 7 and upgrading my computer hardware for so long but this is starting to send me a bit nuts. My vst drum machine has come back fine and all of my audio, (although at times hard to locate) is in its rightful position but the M50 is all over the place.

I use Reaper as my DAW and have contacted them as well as Korg, (though they've not got back to me) but if anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated.

In all the projects where I used my M50, (within the DAW) it is recalling the wrong patches upon starting up the m50 but the plot thickens - it is confusing the bank but in some cases but not the numeric value of the patch i.e. it will bring up combi patch 73 bank A instead of combi patch 73 bank C. In other instances it is even confusing Combi's and Programs. There is a lot of material to wade thru and I can slowly figure out what was what but the problem gets even thicker...

I have tried re-saving projects after finding the correct patch but then upon opening the project once again it reverts back to the incorrect patch that was initially brought up in the first instance, (after building my new computer) but there's more...

When I initially started using the M50 I initiated some global changes most notably, "local control on" and then after committing a "dump" (does that sound weird) and writing it as a global setting each subsequent time I opened the M50 it would preserve my global changes but no so now - each time I load the unit I have to re-enter the local control command which isn't the end of the World but suggests to me that something isn't being found or saving properly in the first instance.

A little more on my system - I've tried the latest and an older instance of the editor software and both have behaved the same- could it be that perhaps the M50 doesn't like Windows 7, this seems unlikely as I think it actually just uses the 32 bit architecture as it says x 86 in the plug in list.

Could the USB driver be incorrectly installed - that seems strange as my Korg Nano Pad is behaving as it should - although that stores no data.

I'm using the latest version of Reaper - they suggested turning off: send all notes off, reset pitch and reset cc within the DAW but that seemed to have no effect.

The Audio interface could not really affect it but just for the sake of the record it's a Focusrite Scarlett - I guess that's about it...

Again if anyone could suggest anything I would be eternally grateful.

Nik

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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 1:16 am
by nik1
I guess nobody has had this problem b4? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:14 pm
by Ajbbklyn
Have you consulted the manual for the M50 editor software? There may be a setting in the software itself that is causing the problem when the program is launched as a VST within Reaper. Also - is Reaper a 32-bit host or 64-bit? (I'm guessing 32-bit. Otherwise the editor would not be able to function.)

Anyway, it may mean nothing. But, at least it's another avenue to explore.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:19 am
by csteen
Reaper comes in both 32 and 64 bit versions, but that is definitely something worth checking out.

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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:18 pm
by nik1
yeah these guys had it all down and the'r suggestions lead me to the answer:

just in case anyone stumbles upon this problem and they're a bit dopey on the tech / logical front like I am- use the 32 bit option of your daw - you'll loose some RAM capacity but save yourself some heartache.

The VST bridging function offered by the 64 bit version of Reaper, (it may have the same or similar name in other DAWS) tries its best to to dumb itself down to accommodate old plugs but it just doesn't function real good and scrambles your stuff bad, especially if you've put hundreds of hours of work into half finished projects utilizing older technology,

thanx for taking the time to reply and offering some advice.

Nik

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:14 pm
by Enri
Double click the midi track, the piano roll will open, select the view menu at the top, select Mode: Event List. Now delete the events that change your sound, their usually noted with PC, I think.

midi editor

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:20 am
by nik1
I'm getting more and more tempted by that midi editor page - that's a good heads up - having said that I think the program is more stable running under 32bit.