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Hay guys,

Try not to freak out at this post’s title as I know some people don’t see much reason to understand the basics of their DNA and how it is connected to music theory but who knows….they might get lucky and change their mind because our DNA is based on music theory and like writing a new song using the latest technology it has something new to offer everyone including musicians and fools alike giving each one of us two choices each step of the way creating the final version of our body and how we feel. Some here will remember the online gamers playing “Foldit” that cracked the AIDS DNA code in 3 weeks using basic gaming skills…. after the trained experts who put in the details of the picture couldn’t see the picture when standing back a few feet from over a decade away.

So notice the power of logic that allowed a few rank amateurs to do something most people including myself at the time would say is impossible. But the impossible proved itself to be a contradiction and happened. And the cool thing is Nature was just getting warmed up with more of the “impossible” coming along that I’m getting used to see coming up a lot lately with two sides the observer must pick between if good is to come of it in place of bad.

So for those interested in seeing what makes them tic to make a few positive changes to their knowledge of music with the side benefit of understanding and controlling their own health just relax as anything is possible with an open mind at rest. Try to notice anything representing two opposite concepts that go together so you can continue breaking it down to see the lowest level of 0s and 1s, even and odd, or on and off….same programing math in phase connected to time. Getting a head start here even if only to create a spark of interest to get your attention working will allow you to see something marvelous coming soon in a better state of awareness that has added something Richard Feynman said was "Written by the hand of God but no one could figure out how He pushed his pencil”.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1319189/

“Although DNA and electronics may seem to be two different unrelated fields of science to apply to understanding music nothing could be further from the truth. A series of events has highlighted the unusual ability of DNA to form electronic components.”

“In general, DNA electronics does not aim to make something new. Its immediate goal is to improve old concepts in a new manner, although in the process it may create entirely new ideas in nanoelectronics. This field is highly interdisciplinary, merging physics, biology, chemistry, computer science, engineering and so on, to use individual DNA molecules for producing a new range of electronic devices that are much smaller, faster and more energy efficient than the present semiconductor-based electronic devices.” May 2003.

Now my interest here is not building new synths or other electronic devices using DNA, not even a polyphonic aftertouch controller with release velocity, but rather understanding the device I already have and use to carry my brain around in. Imagine your body is a key keyboard and being able to fix it by giving it poly AT just by knowing how to program the BIOS to create it. As crazy as it sounds at first that is the power of our DNA related to our bodies and it’s free to use but requires time and attention. The problem is it didn’t come with a manual and diagrams like a keyboard does, but one is on the way. And this is important because without a manual you might not ever even get it to turn on because even though the long black skinny thing has a plug on the end that looks like it fits into a socket on the wall…. after sticking a screwdriver in it to see if the holes were as deep as the plug and getting shocked you won’t want to try sticking something in it again. And don’t laugh…because that’s about where most people are at regarding their body compared to their keyboards failing to understand what mentally programing the brain can do to it. It’s our DNA’s fault for the way we are, but it’s our fault for staying that way as we change with time one way or the other in sickness or health, or even just a foot growing out of your forehead. There are risks involved in all worthwhile endeavors… so just put a sock on it and try again;-)

So far we see the true potential of controlling or DNA’s programing in accidents and unusual events. We have and still are witnessing immortality in certain cells believed to have been created by a weakened immune system showing the hidden power of the DNA in all of us. And the best place to advance DNA research is where computers are used and understood in working with music theory and sound wave synthesis with the basic electronics controlling it understood. Welcome to Korg Forums where time and the DNA’s clock cycle was first introduced.

“This is up, this is down, let’s go up and down.” If you leave music theory out that is....

Very cool! I'm not at all surprised that not a lot of people have responded to this thread. We're talking some heavy stuff here and unless you have a knowledge of micro-electronics and genetics you might be a bit lost. I myself have no education I either of these fields but I am insatiably curious and actually understood most of the article.

Have you ever read Timothy Leary's, "Programming and Meta Programming the Human Bio Computer"?

Yeah, I know he was the "stoner LSD guy", but it's a good read.

I never read that book by Leary and always found Leary's writings so complex in description of the important issues they made reading the Bible's translation on consciousness seem concise and always preferred reference books of hard cold simple facts and the evidence of their supported measurements. But to the Man's credit it was an article on the octave structure of the Periodic Table of Chemical Elements Leary coauthored with Robert Anton Wilson printed in the Berkley Barb that caught my attention as one blew by at the exact right time that let me see how the mechanical structure of consciousness was supporting matter to get me to investigate the possibility. I was studying martial arts and "Gung-Fu" was a hit TV show at the time and I had just finished a course on basic electricity dealing with car mechanics and noticed the article left out the basic summery of equations and Ohm's law I saw being described. It didn't take me long to achieve a state of pure consciousness I was reading about to experience it for myself allowing me to understand time and the inertial frame of reference time is connected to.

Books I remember reading was "Supernature" by Lynal Watson, "The Secret Life of Plants" by Peter Tomkins, "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" by Josh Clinton Perce and a simple book on Einstein and relativity. That's all it took to figure out the UFT equation as a scale model in my head and later in algebra that exposed and locked down the asymmetry of the weak force I express as the symbol {a} which is responsible for the force of gravity. I waited a long time to come right out and say it (but my Korg Forum logo kind of gives it away;-) because I figured even if the answer to gravity was shown to physics the experts still wouldn't see it. And they didn't so any claim to the discovery using a better vocabulary has been eliminated. But it wasn't just about getting the credit. We put way too much faith in scientists that honestly believe they passed Einstein up using the dice he rejected out of basic logic. The same logic that made him the great scientist he became. We do not have the long term ability and never will have it to solve the problems technology creates when used unwisely and it needed to be shown that the scientist that gave us the greatest leap is not around anymore to see the weapons threatening us that his mind created with a stern warning being ignored. And I am referring to advancements way past the A Bomb like the GPS system that relies on time dilation adjustments.

Here is a link to The Secret Life of Plants video. If you have not seen it I think you will really enjoy it despite being a bit dated and better data added since it was made. I saw it on TV years ago. For some reason Stevie Wonder's music has been removed from it as well as the Beatle's "Here Comes the Sun" so you'll have fill it in with your own copy to hear it. I'm not sure how Stevie Wonder who is in it had his music removed but my guess is the reason likely says more about the music profession than most people are aware of, and many will deny is happening at the level it occurs keeping some great music from being heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_X2Z9v8-6Q

BTW.... Curiosity trumps a classical education and not having one can be a good thing as physics was digging a hole that just kept getting deeper even with the answers floating by. Just as the "Standard Model" in physics is shown to be in error on countless gravity related issues the "Central Dogma" as it's called in DNA research is also at odds with itself as James A. Shapiro has pointed out.

The most startling thing his argument made me aware of is what is called "posttranslational modification" where we see that a protein's amino acid sequence can be modified after translation by different enzymes. This shows a protein can affect another protein's sequence. Now that's really heavy as it shows to modify a protein the complex information frames supporting their sequence of amino acids dictated by the nucleotide sequence of the genes that determines their three-dimensional structure and it's function in most cases can be ignored so to speak meaning changes made to the Observers body through conscious awareness does not need to be so complex with a full understanding of the entire process as I once thought. So that brings me to needing to understand what mechanisms are in place to prevent the resonance of thinking we take for granted as not doing "much" from doing the same thing to some degree.

I know from direct observation and personal experience a person's physical structure and health as well as the resulting outward appearance of the body is to a great degree a picture of how a person feels emotionally in an analogy to a tuning fork creating ripples in the air around it reacting with other tuning fork's ripples obeying the same laws of harmonics we work with. What a person believes is going to happen is critical in allowing it to happen through relaxation that allows the change to the tuning forks own structure. When under stress from an outside attack on an observers freewill relaxing stops to keep the tuning fork's structure intact. I have seen attorneys break the law to deliberately use time related stress to control a person's emotions to cause extreme harm and death to try to win a legal case they cannot win legally. It doesn't always work and in my case it gave me an education and sent the stress back where it came from slower than it arrived because time is amplifying it thanks to CERN and SLAC, but at the expense of a few friends like Ed Kerr who was the original developer and land owner of MCR and the Cliffs subdivisions who came to the KAPWC HOA members aid on Maui. This is why you will see a great deal of silence regarding my posts on science sites instead of any argument as the closer to the truth you get the more real it becomes and although we don't experience reality on the atomic level anymore fear is still driving our emotions along with it's reverse symmetry of hate. We start off great with a single whole tone we call love but a terrible thing happens with time attached, it becomes relative turning to off, creating one of two voices of the original single tone without any other chemical time based information needed as fear is one of two fundamental base voices natural to Mass oscillation phase related sense awareness of the "voice space" in the forward (upward) arrow of Mass oscillation that leads to the "off" state. This state is followed by the second reverse arrow that leads back to the "on" state of "feeling" or "back to being" and the associated sensation of the second return arrow of "voice space" connected to gravity is not love as you might expect, but rather hate (I want it back get out of my way) showing why greed and hate go together so well making their inclusion in an information frame of opposite concepts hard to tell apart in many cases.

Once you understand the reverse symmetry of "pitch", because of the two harmonic commas created, one for each direction arrow, with the second arrow measuring larger than the first arrow because of it's larger harmonic comma value you see hate measured by time is heavier and fear is not only canceled out by hate in the Mass oscillation cycle, but dominated by hate making hate the harder of the two motions of emotion to control and without a throttle to control it's flow will always spin past the sweet spot into fear. This is why Humans need disiplain and make laws to control hate and control the gravity phase from stealing things like money, rather than make laws against people acting in fear and needing to worry about everyone giving their money away to be more afraid.

Hate is actually a primitive baseline extremely addictive drug and there is a video of cops beating a person that is obviously not a threat if even still conscious and one steps away and tells another cop "he's still moving" and the other cops steps in and starts beating a human being of no threat whatsoever just to get his "fix". That video should be called "have another hit". And the spooky thing is the disease of hate addiction and it's spin off emotions like rape and theft is spreading throughout US Law Enforcement because it is being fueled by greed and blind ignorance at the top causing History to repeat itself and it's up to us to stop it, not sit by and watch it happen. OK... I heard me say that so that's what I'm doing as no one else is going to do it for me. I started with my neighbor the "good doctor" and I'm using gravity to work my way to the top.... LOL

jeremykeys wrote:Very cool! I'm not at all surprised that not a lot of people have responded to this thread. We're talking some heavy stuff here and unless you have a knowledge of micro-electronics and genetics you might be a bit lost. I myself have no education I either of these fields but I am insatiably curious and actually understood most of the article.

Have you ever read Timothy Leary's, "Programming and Meta Programming the Human Bio Computer"?

Yeah, I know he was the "stoner LSD guy", but it's a good read.

I would say the problem is that people take this crap at face value because they are dazzled by all the pseudoscience. If you name a couple of facts and add some five syllable words it's amazing how quickly people's critical thinking facilities go AWOL.

Gravity is not pseudoscience SanderXpander. And honestly that is what you are saying whether or not you understand why which is irrelevant to the truth. Understanding that gravity deals with two harmonic commas allows us to go back and forth from music theory with ANY field in Science as it is all interrelated and the mathematics are basically the same. The same applies to our DNA and it's Gene Ensemble which is certainly not pseudoscience although many people following some religions believe that to be the case. Understanding that a protein's amino acid sequence can be modified after translation by different enzymes is stunning, and of great benefit to understand, and again involves the same laws in music theory repeating themselves. This observation is now a proven fact that challenges the central dogma in DNA research just as gravity challenges the standard model in physics. And this discussion is in direct support of a thread discussed here years before you showed up and posted more posts in a shorter period than anyone else ever has to my knowledge to "establish" yourself as a member of this music forum.

Last summer I had the pleasure to attend the last few nights of the Oregon Star Party in isolated Central Oregon's dark deep space viewing at night and speak with the director of LIGO from Chicago who was one of many speakers at the astronomy event and not only is he highly intelligent and well educated he has an open mind and the last thing he did was insult anyone when I shocked a few people and explained why I believe LIGO is pointed in the wrong direction and in fact agreed it would explain why LIGO is not working as hoped. And he was not the only one I spoke with that saw what I was saying, and after setting the theme I found myself listening as much as talking acquiring information and new points of view. The point here being is your world view is an isolated opinion in quantum physics as well as music theory and the words of the Beatles along with many other of the greatest Musicians right back to Pythagoras and Baudhāyana who actually likely discovered the Pythagoras theorem and described it in his book Baudhāyana Śulbasûtra one of the oldest books on advanced Mathematics, all who would disagree with you. In Yoga their is a state of mind is called Avidya which is regarded as the ignorance of the observer's true self that leads to ego-consciousness of the body and the physical world. The state of sensory perception that this creates is called Maya.

The truth is you stated "calculating data has very little to do with science" and don't say anything at all related to the issues being discussed other than insult people and say you don't accept facts and mathematics that expose the truth of the nature of Mass and it's relationship to time and space. I certainly don't use five syllable words outside the rare occasion I am forced to quote some known established term like posttranslational modification and I keep to the basics and the small amount of mathematics I post to back up the facts is all high school level math and algebra as that's all that is needed to expose stunning facts.

The only "crap" I see is your failure to say anything of logic to support your view point, or rather lack of one even mentioned. You regard or pretend to regard any discussion involving quantum physics and consciousness where the evidence was available as far back as 1935 to collapse the wave function by observation "pseudoscience". And you claim this despite my posting simple math people here have done showing SLAC's E158 ratio of weak force asymmetry applied to 453.6 miles which is created by the very specific distance light travels in one hour at the speed of light (186,282 miles per second) to the distance light travels in one thousand years creating a VERY specific ratio matched CERN's Sept 2011 Worldwide announcement supporting FERMI Labs less accurate observation that stated for two years their muon phase timed neutrinos were measured at (v-c)/c=2.48e-5 sec (60 Nano seconds) in 453.6 miles and did so by ALSO breaking the E158 data down into 3 other important exceptionally specific ratios that took the breath out of the experienced astronomers I showed it to this summer without even telling them the asymmetry in time shown is the force of gravity created by two music theory related harmonic commas which for reasons beyond the scope of this post I withheld.

Sander you may not find this subject matter interesting and worthwhile but many do as shown on Reason's Propellerheads Forum where in May 2008 it was stated Korg (Fourms) deserved more "due" credit for one of the UFT posts that came from here: https://www.propellerheads.se/forum/sho ... p?p=573396

"That was so awesome"

"The only thing more interesting is how so many of these numbers involved, are, not surprisingly, connected to the twelfth root of two."

"Which is the point, that the viewer is so close to the see-er within certain Reason uses, and that the delta value points between the two can at least point to a probability field that corresponds to the probability statistics. +-30% is plenty close enough considering human reflexes and current motor motion interfaces until we have neural sockets. We can see the results of the environmental aspects of uses of Reason's parameters and effects on various users and the distortions these cause, which correlates with our observations in other testing." etc....

SanderXpander you have clearly expressed your dislike for this subject matter you call "pseudoscience" as well as the people who find it interesting and your past comment "In fact, provoking him was most of my point." where another member was banned for his comments is in violation of the Mission Statement of Korg Forum "to be someone interested in helping your fellow musicians". Now you are again using the same group phycology tactics of emotion and insulting yet another member as well as myself. I am respectfully asking you not to comment further to my posts on gravity dealing the harmonic comma and the Unified Field Theory equation that exposed the asymmetry of the weak force that members of this forum contributed to and deserve some credit for their contribution in the discussions.

I believe you are a very smart guy (not that I expect you to care whether I do or not) but I have a problem when you mix hard data and scientific theory with soft things like "we start off with a whole note of love" or whatever. My BS meter just goes off majorly. I have dealt with too many charlatans in the past to pass it by easily.

That said, you're without a doubt right about one thing; I really shouldn't be causing bad feelings between members of this board, because I like this place. I have "established" myself here, as you said. It didn't feel like such a short time to me but perhaps I was just in a much heavier place than you?
I like to think I help people out with their Korg issues sometimes. And that's what it really should be about.
So if we don't see eye to eye, we probably ever won't, nor do we need to.
This board is big enough for me to stay out of these discussions altogether, so I'll try to do so from now on. Sorry for the bad joke, I couldn't pass it up.

I didn't notice any bad feelings either coming or going. It's all fine with me here,!