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am i missing something in the manual, is there any option that i can record some pattern sequence (song), like in every normal drum machine or synth?

Nope! Song mode has been ditched... Your only lame option is the event recorder...

Or use pattern set in real time...

There is no song mode. And the event recorder has never worked for me when I had mine. I would record say 10 minutes and when playing it back it would play only a few minutes before stopping. More people ran into the same problem.

On the previous models the song mode has never failed me. Smooth pattern changes every single time. Very reliable.

I heard that the original idea was for this to be a hands on live use machine. You change the patterns yourself not letting a song mode do it all making you sound good.

Frenzies wrote:not letting a song mode do it all making you sound good.

lolwut?

A song mode making you sound good? I never heard of that.

How about playing back some patterns while I'm twiddling with the knobs cuz I can't be bothered manually change them. The only box that can't do it is the E2.

I like setting my devices to play back a song or set of patterns while jamming. I am sure I am not alone in this. Also manually switching to the next pattern is not always an option when your hands are full or playing together with others.

If the E2 was really meant for performing it would have some sort of song mode and not the totally useless event recorder. You can't even overdub in there.

I think a song mode, or at the very least an option to chain some patterns together into a longer one will give people much more creative freedom. Instead of programming an evolving melody over 4 separate patterns you could chain 4 together, press play and record and create a long melody just like that, without having to stop or manually change to the next pattern.

What I don't understand is that i get much hate here whilst I want what everybody wants, an improved E2; a box thats better than all other boxes. But it seems nobody is seeing that cuz I'm honest and negative about their beloved E2.

I guess to them the box i purrrfect and needs no fixes or improvements whatsoever. OR they think the way to get Korg to improve the E2 is to buy them now instead of waiting with buying one until Korg fixes the problems.

tl;dr
I suck, ya'll rule.

Korg figuered barely anyone (exceptions confirm the rule) was using the song mode anyway and will not miss it. Well maybe we'll miss it now we only have 4 bars and have to turn the wheel like idiots for a pattern change.

_INTER_ wrote:Korg figuered barely anyone (exceptions confirm the rule) was using the song mode anyway and will not miss it. Well maybe we'll miss it now we only have 4 bars and have to turn the wheel like idiots for a pattern change.

I think using pattern set might be a bit more efficient. unless you write your patterns back to back

dutchcow wrote:

Frenzies wrote:not letting a song mode do it all making you sound good.

lolwut?

A song mode making you sound good? I never heard of that.

How about playing back some patterns while I'm twiddling with the knobs cuz I can't be bothered manually change them. The only box that can't do it is the E2.

I like setting my devices to play back a song or set of patterns while jamming. I am sure I am not alone in this. Also manually switching to the next pattern is not always an option when your hands are full or playing together with others.

If the E2 was really meant for performing it would have some sort of song mode and not the totally useless event recorder. You can't even overdub in there.

I think a song mode, or at the very least an option to chain some patterns together into a longer one will give people much more creative freedom. Instead of programming an evolving melody over 4 separate patterns you could chain 4 together, press play and record and create a long melody just like that, without having to stop or manually change to the next pattern.

What I don't understand is that i get much hate here whilst I want what everybody wants, an improved E2; a box thats better than all other boxes. But it seems nobody is seeing that cuz I'm honest and negative about their beloved E2.

I guess to them the box i purrrfect and needs no fixes or improvements whatsoever. OR they think the way to get Korg to improve the E2 is to buy them now instead of waiting with buying one until Korg fixes the problems.

tl;dr
I suck, ya'll rule.

The lack of a song mode, right or wrong, and for me I don't care if it has one or not, was a decision made. It was a choice. You may not agree with it, but they made a choice to force people to manually switch patterns and stay engaged with the machine. Not everybody laments its omission. I've got loads of drum stuff, hardware and software, that have a song mode and I never use it, but that's just my way of working.
I'm with you on the event recorder. I can't work out what that is for.
Re: the hate you get on here. I don't hate on you. I want this box improved, I've said it in many posts. But I also think that since you got rid of yours your opinion on it has hardened. You're much more vehemently anti than you were before. It had faults, now it's an unusable lemon, and it is not that. It has many problems, but aside from the sound engine problems and the lack of fx tails and part tails everything is is just a choice made by Korg. It may not be your workflow, but some of us are happy with those aspects of it.

Not having a Song Mode is a step backward... No matter how you paint the picture, it stays the same. Korg needs to fix that among other things.

Oh and by the way, I own the E2.

I would also like to see a song mode. I am playing my Wurltizer + Moog along with it, and having to get a hand over to live change the pattern set is just one more thing to worry about.

I had assumed there would be one. I checked the manual for everything else prior to the purchase. More than a little surprised (bummed) when it wasn't there.

Hopefully this can be addressed in an update.

http://ph.neutre.free.fr/ES1%20Manual.pdf

Scroll down to page 51. I wonder if this is the origin of the Event Recorder?

Yes KORG removed the song mode because they wanted us to switch manually between the patterns, and Yes - they gave us the pattern switch gap as well..Nice!