Advanced midi questions E2/ES2.. Help please

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Buska
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Advanced midi questions E2/ES2.. Help please

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Does anyone know:

1. If i plug in a basic midi controller (keyboard) to the input to the E2/ES2:
Will it play the selected part?
Will the midi pass through to the external instrument connected to that channel/part?

2. I want to plug the midi out to a range of midi hardware through a splitter box and then set each device to only respond to a certain channel. As each device will be receiving the same bulk midi output, if I have a part on channel/pad 2 playing a sample on the ES2, can I stop that part outputting midi? The reason I ask is I have a device that I only want to trigger on ch11 but it recieves midi on channels 1&5 too and this cannot be turned off on this device. It always responds to midi on ch1,5,&11. I think this will be unavoidable unfortunately :(
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Post by musicmagus »

1. The keyboard won't play the selected part on the electribe. It will play the part that corresponds to the midi ch. it's sending on. I'm not sure about the thru.

2. I don't think you can stop one part transmitting midi ( other than muting the part).
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Post by pgerv »

The MIDI controller will control the part(s) that match the MIDI channel(s) it is transmitting data on. If you leave your controller on "OMNI" it will control all 16 parts on the E2/ES2 which generally speaking will only cause you problems. I've just been cycling through MIDI channels on my controller to record one part, then switch to another one.

You can definitely control a range of hardware using a splitter box but the device you're asking about will eat up 3 parts. Not really the end of the world because you'll never get all 16 parts going at once anyway.

The situation you describe could actually be used to your advantage as you could have 3 variations on the same "riff" and cycle through them by muting/un-muting parts 1-5-11.
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Post by Buska »

pgerv wrote:The MIDI controller will control the part(s) that match the MIDI channel(s) it is transmitting data on. If you leave your controller on "OMNI" it will control all 16 parts on the E2/ES2 which generally speaking will only cause you problems. I've just been cycling through MIDI channels on my controller to record one part, then switch to another one.

You can definitely control a range of hardware using a splitter box but the device you're asking about will eat up 3 parts. Not really the end of the world because you'll never get all 16 parts going at once anyway.

The situation you describe could actually be used to your advantage as you could have 3 variations on the same "riff" and cycle through them by muting/un-muting parts 1-5-11.
Unfortunately the different channels control different parts of the device.. 1 triggers the pads, 5 triggers patterns, 11 triggers scenes. Thanks for the help though. It gets worse as reading the manual I discovered that channels 9&10 are also open duplicates of 1&5 :(
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Post by Buska »

musicmagus wrote:1. The keyboard won't play the selected part on the electribe. It will play the part that corresponds to the midi ch. it's sending on. I'm not sure about the thru.

2. I don't think you can stop one part transmitting midi ( other than muting the part).
Damn. I have a dope little keyboard that's battery powered but it cannot change it's midi output mode :(
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Post by Buska »

So it looks like the BSP and maybe an old 80's midi seq slaved for poly. Thanks again
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Post by Steinberger »

Buska wrote:So it looks like the BSP and maybe an old 80's midi seq slaved for poly. Thanks again
Here's a quirky idea: How about a BSP and a SQ-1 sending to the Electribe? By default they both send their first two sequencers to ch 1 and ch 2 respectively. Played simultaneously they fight on the same channels.
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Post by Buska »

Steinberger wrote:
Buska wrote:So it looks like the BSP and maybe an old 80's midi seq slaved for poly. Thanks again
Here's a quirky idea: How about a BSP and a SQ-1 sending to the Electribe? By default they both send their first two sequencers to ch 1 and ch 2 respectively. Played simultaneously they fight on the same channels.
Interesting idea. I wanted the electribe as a midi sequencer for other gear. But I wonder if that would work?

I wonder if the sq1 will work for what I want? The hardware I wanted to send poly too can actually recieve it on different channels I think.. Must investigate :idea:
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Post by AxeBreaker »

You could get a little box from MIDI Solutions or some other manufacturer that can translate or filter midi as necessary for that device I think there are other manufacturers that make stuff like that than Midi Solutions but theirs is the cheapest. It's still not cheap, the 32 setting one is $189.

I got mine to use to control Volcas from the electribe, since their non-note cc's are nonstandard. I really wish the motion control on the electribes sent MIDI, but it doesn't, but at least this way I have some live control.
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Post by Frenzies »

For what it's worth, if you use an external controller it will trigger the e2, but not anything external on the same midi channel, in my experience. I had Auxy on the iPad triggering 3 parts on the e2, but nothing passed through to the synths I had attached via 5 pin midi in real time.
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Re: Advanced midi questions E2/ES2.. Help please

Post by Poumtschak »

Buska wrote:Will the midi pass through to the external instrument connected to that channel/part?
Nope, there's no MIDI Thru with the current OS 1.10 on the e2.
I'd swap this with the useless (to me) program change that's being sent by the e2, anytime.

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