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JonSolo
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| Dee wrote: | | Now what if I already have a song with 5 or 6 tracks recorded on the triton and want to transfer all of these into pro tools as midi data? Do I do them all at the same time, or one by one? Or do I save the song as a midi file on the triton's floppy and then get this midi file into pro tools, and then...er...well....don't know! |
You could import the MIDI file from the Triton to Protools. Or you could bypass the MIDI process if you are happy with the sounds and the edits and synchronize Protools with the Triton and drop one audio track at a time.
| Quote: | | Daz, you say you mute all the midi tracks except the one you're recording to audio.........why don't you record all the midi tracks to audio tracks at the same time? Can't they run at the same time? why "rinse and repeat for each midi track"?? |
By not mixing ALL your audio to one track when you are recording, you have more control over the mix once it is in PT. Once in PT you can add effects, EQ, etc. to each individual track. You can raise and lower the volume in parts. It really is about control and crafting your track.
| Quote: | | So it is possible to have some effects set on the triton HEARD when 'performing' the part for each instrument when doing step (1) even if this is not being captured as part of the midi data. (I find that the effects determine how I play the particular part, like how long I hold the notes down etc. |
Yes you can. It really makes no difference what sound is in your Triton when you are recording MIDI data. However, like you said, the sound and effects do affect the way you play the keyboard. So pick the sound that you will LIKELY use.
BTW, did your hardware come with any Virtual instruments? They usually package one or two. I know you got Reason. Reason would be a perfect way to balance the understanding between audio and MIDI as ALL reason does is record MIDI using internal sounds of Reason and not your Triton.
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Daz
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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JonSolo
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Daz,
Actually you do a great job at articulating what I do daily but take for granted as "normal". What I appreciate is that while I learned most of this by personal trial and error, today's programs are for more complex and do an inferior job of explaining things than their earlier counterparts. I got to benefit from software with a smaller learning curve and could gradually take on what I use today over time.
I do envy people efficient at Logic or Pro Tools though. Both of those are complex.
Jon
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Cold was merely a metaphor. It is warm and muggy here in Charleston. But many of my clients are off, and though I work all the time, I see very little money. But no worry...I got my music. And it's helping to keep me going.
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Sounds like lyrics to a tune.
Yes - it has been cold in terms of being inspired to create tunes here 
Nice process description Daz  Over the past 2 years I have been entertaining those two - but today just use the PC for the audio recording part. I am wondering with all the Karma stuff going on how that would map into those sequencers.
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Dee
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Jon for answering my questions!!
You guys are all ABSOLUTELY wonderful to take so much time to write these things for me.
I get it about the midi to audio. I think I was thinking about doing multi-track recordings, i.e.......say 5 midi tracks into 5 audio tracks at the same time....  .........Lazy Dee........and then fiddling with each audio track afterwards.
But I think I get it now!
Will report back when I've got something to report.....(obviously  )
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| Dee wrote: | | say 5 midi tracks into 5 audio tracks at the same time.... |
Some of the Triton's have additional "individual outs" and the Triton Studio supports the EXB-DI IIRC ... so using those you can actually record more than 1 stereo audio track to your DAW at a time. I have the EXB-DI in my Oasys, and that along with the SPDIF out lets me route 5 stereo audio pairs individually into my Mac.
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JonSolo
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Of course to record more than one stereo track at a time your interface must have multiple I/O's. Dee you have the MBox 2 right? So you really can only do two analog tracks (or one stereo) track at a time, unless you use your digital I/O which you need a mixer with digital outs to use.
So you are not really being lazy...you just need more inputs and outputs! 
You should be fine doing one track at a time though.
GEE...I wish I had an OASYS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd be dangerous...mark my words! and one for ellll 
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Welll, ellll....
Would like one indeed...(and have done a bit of looking....but the cost....proved....too....high....!!!)
But don't give Dee any more outs right now....Make her use the outs she has.... 
And Daz....NEEDS an Oasys....'cause it will do enough that we get to hear him sing some more.... |
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Dee
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ellll wrote: |
But don't give Dee any more outs right now....Make her use the outs she has....
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Suppose part of the problem is that I don't even know WHAT I've actually got!!
They say the equipment is as good as the person who uses it.... 
Jon, you asked
| Quote: | | BTW, did your hardware come with any Virtual instruments? They usually package one or two. I know you got Reason. Reason would be a perfect way to balance the understanding between audio and MIDI as ALL reason does is record MIDI using internal sounds of Reason and not your Triton. |
Okay....I got Reason Adapted (not full version), AmpliTube LE, Xpand!, Ozone 3 Lite, Trash Lite, Spectron Lite, Celemony Melodyne and Ableton Live lite.
Don't have a clue what they are, or how they fit into the broad picture of my set-up. I know they're all there waiting to be used from within protools, but I don't understand HOW.
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ellll
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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 , sounds.....neat.....
Greek and Russian to me...but keep working on it...you have the rest of your life.... ..
Johnny (ellll) |
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