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chordial · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: May08 - Chordial

Just about made it again:

http://www.ferntill.dsl.pipex.com/songs/May08.mp3
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JonSolo · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject:

I see the guitar playing really coming along here bro! I don't know how much time you get to spend with it, but you are doing well!

A very classic rock feel...sorta Moody Blues edge...especially in the chord progression. Nice choice of synth sounds. The last segment of the song threw me a bit. You left the melodic. That would not have been bad, except I already felt a heavy reverb feel throughout the song, which fit perfectly until the end where everything felt a bit washed together.

Bottom line however: I like it. Fits great with last month's piece!

Jon
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ellll · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject:

So nice and it is a bit Moody sounding....I like the general smoothness and the nice guitar work as welll... You have done some nice drum work as well...This has such a classic feel and sound....

The prodauction seems well done ...would like less pan on the drums in places, but it does add interest.... indeed...loved the dist. ibn the later parts....

Like to hear some lyrics on this....would be good....Something like Moody's Blue Guitar...for example....

Good One indeed...Really enjoyed it !!!

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georgeinar · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject:

I really enjoy listening to this, I can feel the creative juices flowing through all the different sounds and performances here. I like the chord progressions too, the overall sound is strong and seems to have something emotional to say, or maybe a story to tell, which is always very important to me. I would like a bit of openness to the sounds as it got a bit blurred, at least in my crappy headphones. There seemed to be some nice background things that might benefit from a bit more emphasis, not so much volume but some effect that would make them sparkle a bit more. I did wonder at about 3:00 if it seemed to lose some steam and maybe was opening up for a cool lead synth part for a few measures, just a suggestion. And I do think also that the guitar at the end seemed to have a lot of sustain (if i can trust my ears here). I'll end on a stong positive vibe here. I'm so jealous of this guitar sound. I love it. I wish I could get back into playing real guitar as I used to, but it would take so much right now, and I live with someone else in a small condo so I dont' have my own space really for playing a lot of instruments, so I must live vicariously through those of you out there who can pluck those strings as they're meant to be played and not trying to pretend you're playing guitar as I often do. It's all good. And do keep up the good work here. You inspire the rest of us to practice our gear and become better performers! Drool

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Stephen · Platinum Member Joined: 28 Aug 2002 Posts: 4709

Listen to that guitar!
Sounds Good

really nice.
I enjoyed this a lot for the most part, but the distorted guitar... Confused

Bottom line...nicely done.
You seem to have a knack for the guitar keep up the good work.
Very Happy

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chordial · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:12 am Post subject:

Thanks guys,

Jon,
The end part was going to be a starting section for this month’s song, maybe I should have finished on the open section. I dialed in some delay on the lead part for that section too, and forgot to drop it back out. I try to practice the guitar every 2 days, if not every day, but you wouldn't believe how many takes some of these parts took!

John,
Lyrics, there were some kicking about at one point, but came to nothing. It's funny that you listen to something long enough and still miss parts, the drums panning, I can hear it now, but totally missed it even after so many times! That's the beauty of multitrack, it would be easy enough to centre them more (and remove the added delay at the end).

George,
The original three chords have been in my mind for a while, but it took a few weeks to make anything of them, then it seemed to come together. Good idea with the synth solo, I had planned to use more soundscape type sounds in this section, but left it in the end. One of the first jobs I did on the house was to covert the integral garage into a room, so I'm lucky enough to have music room that doesn't interfere with the rest of the household.

Stephen,
I remembered your advice about playing the lead guitar softer, and have been (hopefully!) trying to 'squeeze' the sounds out rather than forcing them. Still a long way to go, but I'm still enjoying learning and the different aspects the guitar has.

Cheers Simon
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DrWho · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject:

Hi Chordial,

I listened to your tune a few times - there is are many elements in there. So many things so little time - at least that's how I feel when making tunes - is it the same for you?

I too really liked the lead guitar - It does tell a story or at least talks a lot to you Smile

Good synth voices in the background and like the progression - the quieter section, and of course the bass segment in there is icing on the cake Smile

Nice playing - All these things really define a tune Cool

The weakest part is the drums. I give you credit for programming them (on a Triton?) - I did it once and that was enough for me. It is tons of effort trying to get them sounding non-robotic. The other challenge is getting them to not sound flat - this was the last straw for me - way too much work.

As for the distortion ending - I would have used power chords - at least at first to help the transition, giving some beats in between each chord wack. I like the idea - and would bring the guitar more forward - slap some 'verb or something on it and then let the last chord ring out. Oh, be careful to not cut off the very very end of your tune - let the symbols fade before stopping etc .. Smile

BTW - Do you have a name in mind?

Cheers,

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Diego · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject:

Hey, I like that rock feeling, and I like a lot the bass interlude...
Very good playing!!

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chordial · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject:

Hi Art,
Cheers, yes drums are still a big problem..but I'm glad to be able to get this far. This time I played the hats and crashes on one track, and then went over with the bass/snare/toms on another stereo pair. I know Daz has been playing real drums recently, but the guitar is hard enough at the moment.
How this was written, yes, small parts fitted together best describes it, and then trying to piece it all together. It's always a rush, and when mixing I seem to get more ideas when it's too late. Still enjoying the process though, and although none of them seem finished, they are in a good enough demo state to work on again.

Hi Diego,
Thanks, I have been listening to more guitar music now, so that must be on my mind when putting these together.

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Cheers Simon
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jazlover · Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject:

So you used the Triton sequencer instead of the D1600 tempo map for this piece? Interesting, I not sure how you can make it sound less like programmed drums (maybe more swing in the sequencer). It sounds good to me once a real drummer is out. It is a lot of work to play drums on the keyboard. This song is good. It has a certain feel to it.

I am like everyone else here who doesn't play guitar with the skill that Stephen has, the real guitar is impressive! After reading everyone comments, vocals would have been nice. A story in the progression would have sealed this song. This is advice from a guy who doesn't sing. Embarassed

Great piece. You put a lot of work into it. Thanks !
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chordial · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:54 am Post subject:

Thanks JL,
Drums on the keyboard, I quite liked using the tempo map, but they are very regimented.
The guitar is coming along, thank again, but vocals not heard very often!
Cheers Simon
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