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Giner · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: Vista woes

I got this Toshiba P200 laptop as a gift last Christmas and this past weekend I tried a webcam conversation on it for the first time with friends over in the UK. It worked okay except that there was no audio reaching them from this end.

This laptop is running Vista and the built-in mic is not showing up in the Recording Devices box, only the front line in and front mic jacks appear there. Is this a Vista thing? Anyone experienced this and found a fix? I'm not hearing too many good things about Vista.

Maybe this should be posted in a geek forum - but I hang better with musos. Thanks.

Fatalmasterpiece · Senior Member Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 256

Ive never used Vista but it sounds like you might need to go to the manufacturers website and download and install the drivers for your Mic

Ultimate Dj · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject:

Dude, i dont know about Webcaming But I know that VISTA SUCKSS!!!!! Rolling Eyes

I mean for real! everybody says it and its true. I HATE ITT!!!! Mad

Its so dam frusterating! just everything about it is horrible! So get a XP or a MAC would be my suggestion! I'm dieing to get a Mac!
anyone got one used that they wanna sell? Very Happy

thanx!

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georgeinar · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject:

Well, I hate to argue, but so far my Vista is working fine, of course I'm not really pushing the envelope with it either.
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RiotNrrd · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject:

Well, I hate to argue, but so far my Vista is working fine, of course I'm not really pushing the envelope with it either.

Yeah, I've been running Vista for a little over a year now, and it's worked just fine for me. Like George, I'm not exactly pushing its envelope, but my sound works, my midi controller works, the latencies are acceptable, it hasn't crashed on me, etc. So, I wouldn't say that it sucks, nor that I hate it.

I don't see that it does anything for me that XP didn't already deliver, but that's another matter entirely.

JonSolo · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject:

Ok there are many aspects to this.

The Toshiba does not have a built in microphone so I can only assume you mean that the Webcam has a built in mic. If that is the case, is the software for the webcam fully Vista compatible and was it properly set up? When connected does it show up in devices? Are there any unidentified devices in your Device Manager?

I am pushing Vista to the limits and have three studio machines running Vista, many with legacy devices installed or attached. I do run into problems, and Vista is not for the lighthearted, but I would not blame this problem on Vista just yet.

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Timo · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject:

If you actually have an inbuilt mic, sounds like the software drivers are not installed. The sound drivers for onboard audio in laptops are usually by Realtek.

Go to your Toshiba website and update the drivers.

I wouldn't think this is a Vista issue at all.
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Giner · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:17 am Post subject:

Thanks guys. Yes, this model does have a built-in mic and I found the corrrect driver for it. So that problem is solved.

However, (nothing's simple is it?) Very Happy

When I turn on the webcam now, a message appears that says "locked by another applicaation". Any ideas how I might find out what and where this application is, and how I might do someting to free up the lock on the webcam?

Thanks again for your input - hope I'm not being a pest.

FWIW and to be honest, I haven't had any other problems with Vista and I've been recording up a storm with Adobe Audition which has been performing flawlessly (my own flaws notwithstanding). Very Happy

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Giner · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:32 am Post subject:

Thanks TriTex4. Umm . . . I'm not out of the woods just yet. You're right, Vista SP1 didn't download automatically through Windows Update. I went to your download link and followed your steps, but the only download I could find was one called "Five Language Standalone KB936330". Further down the page is this:

DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER: A smaller, more appropriate download is available on Windows Update.

I didn't feel safe about downloading this version and I couldn't find the recommended smaller download on Windows Update. Would you have a link to it please? Thanks for your help with this.

tritex4 · Platinum Member Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 1278

Hi Giner.
The smallest version I could find, was the 5 language version as part of the standalone installer. (KB936330) Crying or Very sad

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?freetext=%28kb936330%29&productID=&categoryId=&period=&sortCriteria=date&nr=20&DisplayLang=en
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Giner · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:31 am Post subject:

Hi,
Yep that's the one I ended up with. I spent some time with a MS agent today on their 'chat' support service and we (well, more like he) got the job done. Thanks for your help.

mdh · Junior Member Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 76

Hi Giner,

One thing you may like to know is in my experience Vista thoroughly enjoys second-guessing which audio devices you set as default. My PC has onboard audio with a 2.1 speaker set connected to the rear audio and a headset with mic connected to the front. I also have an Edirol UA-25 connected via USB (when I want to). Vista also added about 8 other useless devices. Every so often Vista decides to change the default device to something other than what I want it set to by default. How nice of it to just randomly do this without asking.

I think the next Windows version should have a sound bite from 2001: A Space Odyssey as the login sound - "Open the pod bay doors please Hal" "I'm sorry Dave, I cannot do that"

It drives me bonkers with this behaviour especially when people call on Skype.

Giner · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject:

I hear ya, man. Microsoft's a real charmer, eh? I even thought about rolling this thing back to XP, but there was so much faffing about getting SP1 into it I just 'caved' in the end. You know, I don't enjoy all this geek stuff, I just wanna get my tracks down with the minimum hassle.

I think I see a Mac in my future.

Timo · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject:

I can't currently see any benefits to using Vista over XP. Maybe for 64-bit usage Vista makes more sense (seeing as XP-32 and -64 are effectively "discontinued") including being able to use and address more than 4GB RAM, but generally there's nothing else that doesn't work on XP yet. And XP is a rock solid, mature platform.

Windows 7, however... I think that will be worth waiting for (performance wise).

Skip Vista.
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