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[Jabba-san]

Hi there!

Ok, it's not so much M50 related. It's maybe much more general quuestion, but I can't stand it to put it here

I'm new to new Korg workstations. I had E-mu sound modules and Korg Poly 800 mkII in the past (eh) and even then I used computer-based sequencers.
Now, I'm slowly realizing, that because I have a child (8 months), I need something packed in one machine. Something that will boot up fast and I 'll be able to hide with it fastly in other room if I need to
Those reasons are also answer to those, who thinks that machine packet with sequencer and all those things like M50 isn't marketable theese days, because everyone uses computer for sequencing

It started two months ago, when I helped my friend to choose something like I need right now. We soon realized, that all he needs is Roland Juno G, because it simply works alone. What I really like about it is - = Piano Roll = - view (they call it Micro in sequencer along with event view. Ok something I really don't like about JunoG is incredibely awful keyboard, which feels like it simply ignore low velocities ;(((( It's almost impossible to play soft on it, because it simply don't sound at all !!! ...

And then Korg M50 was anounced and came out More i read about it more I like it. - And finaly, here's my question (and sorry for that long introduction):

How Korg manage detail track editing in the sequencer? I understand that it's simply unchanget throughout the years, so it will be the same on all Korg synts (along with cool features like independent looping - wow), so If you have Triton Extreme or LE or TR - please, feel free to answer.
What tools you have to edit simple notes, their pitch, their velocities or controllers like joystick? In some understand-on-first-view graphical view like piano roll or some "spread sheet" form like event view? I even can't resist to idea that because it has touchscreen, editing in piano roll will be really cool thing.

hope I'll hear something that calms me down

Thanks,
Jan

[Jabba-san]

44 views up to now and no reply ?
No one is using Korg sequencer ?
Everybody is computer based ?
Or is detail editing so painful that you don't want to talk about it ?

[klarnet basowy]

TR and M50 have a sort of spredsheet editing mode.
The M3 with OS 2.0 have added piano roll like editing mode.
If you want to know more, you can download pdf manuals of the keyboards from korg website, and see in details how the sequencer editing works.

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[kimu]

M50 sequencer has a page call edit track parameter where you can see all the track of your song with highlighted the measures where midi events have been recorded. in this page you can add/delete/move/copy measures of single track or of all tracks. than you also have a midi event editor that gives you the whole list of recorded midi events and you can edit each of them.

M50 does not come with piano roll editor, instead M3 with OS2.0 yes (but i never use it neither in my DAW). with respect to a software sequencer, M50 built in sequncer has the drawback (not considering the obvious think of not having a large screen and a mouse) that you can use a maximum of 5 fx for 16 tracks

[Jabba-san]

[kimu]

if M3 is not on your options, then i would go for M50 with respect to Juno G
maybe korg in next OS will gives us also a piano roll editor

[Jabba-san]

Hi again.

I played with M50 about 2 hours yesterday and I must admit, that the keyboard (i mean actual keys - keybed) is awesome. I was in the store, so I could compare "on site" with classic weighted 88 keys and even high budged synths, and m50 definitely feels strange (a lot) in first touch, but I found myself that after 20 minutes, when I tried other synth-action keyboards around me, they feel cheap and ugly. It's really inbetween weighted and synth keybeds. It's amazing and I really love it. I even find myself that I'm able to play fast parts like on real weighted keybeds (keys quicly return almost as usual).

So - among others - I'm with them who love m50 keys.

... Touchscreen. I love touchscreen for ages now. I've got lots of Palms (it's almost 10 years now) and even now I'm phone with touchscreen (I mean real one - not that "only working with finger flesh" iphone - like ones , so setting m50 up is piece of cake and it's realy fast. If you find it with your eyes, you can change it instantly.
But the display ;( ... it's almost horrible. It's not B&W but rather something like dark blue & grey fractals ;( There was even bunch of vertical lines with different contrast. Like it was dirty of ink and it stays under the glass. Awfull.

Sound. Great. I can't judge the quality, because it was really noisy room (next to guitar section , but it seems quite like M3. I personaly think that it's not the same (maybe same layers in velocity switching are missing? But I can't judge properly because of the ambient noise (lots of

What suprised me - I didn't expect, that I will miss AFTERTIOUCH that much ;( Oh boy ... With split keyboard and both hands full (and without pedal)....

It boots up realy fast, it's build well (maybe the plastic sides - they're quite greyis in comparison to the top metal plate) and it has normal power conector (and not that korg 5pin thing).

And about sequencing - I'm not used to Korg interface, so I really was in trouble ;( I must admint, that on yamaha or ronald I just start to do something and it was it. On Korg, even with touchscreen, I was lost

- ok. It's quite off topic But why not to share ...

[John_J]

[Jabba-san]

[Boynton]

Totally agree. M-50 61-note plastic keyboard feels great! How did they do it and keep the weight down?