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klarnet basowy · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: Korg keyboard's Demo, why? ;)

I write this with all the sympathy to Korg... Wink

I "love" Korg, I like their keyboards since I've tried my first Korg, the T3. Since this "revelation" Korg is the first choice for me to get "inspired" with a keyboard (speaking about rompler). Smile

Speaking about the M50: I've tried all the sounds, plus the M3 programs. The sound palette of the presets of the M50 is really impressive, and cover a lot of different "music eras". There are a lot of wonderful analog-like pads, leads and synths, (not mention what you will able to do taking the "raw wavesynth samples" as OSC and filtering them in analog style), a lot of sounds from the "digital era", in D-50 style and similar, which I like a lot, some really really good electric pianos, and solinas, and arp2600 samples, and many many more to do great sounds. There is plenty of sounds that made the history of the synthesizer magic.

So... looking at the demos you wonderful magician of the electronic sounds put on the web to demonstrate the new keyboards like the M50... (see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s30Xgr3OzuU ), why in hell you demonstrate the piano, some clav, some cheesy real instrument fac-simile (is not a M50 fault, real instruments, except well sampled piano maybe, are always a bit cheesy in a rompler), and a couple of arranger-like-arpeggiator-infested combis? Wink

The M50 is not this, is much much more! Smile

The M50 is able to do a lot of wonderful sounds, please demonstrate these sounds in your video demos.

With love Wink

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Synthoid · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Korg keyboard's Demo, why? ;)

klarnet basowy · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: Korg keyboard's Demo, why? ;)

kimu · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject:

i think it is going to "touch one key and the keyboard to it all for you"

also somewhere have to be recognized that korg WS (and also yamaha en roland) is not very much friendly to program. even the EXB-RADIAS on the M3 is a lot worse to program than a traditional VA

and i am not saying this only beacuse of missing knobs or because you have to browse menu pages but the overall setting for programming is quite hard to fully understand...

the best MMI i have seen is the one of V-synth. V-synth it's at least as complex as any korg ws as features and sonic possibilities, but they manage to keep interface simple and clear and most important you have the same confidence as you are programming a traditional VA/analog synth.

StudioMan · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject:

Well, that little video was enough to help sell me!

Really, the biggest selling points I can see: 1) quality of the sounds.
2) touch screen (which is the cause of the 3rd item) 3) ease of use.

I'm hard into the manuals. Amazing what all the M50 can do. I'm so impressed. Each day I learn more & more..

I feel sorry for people (or I should say the company owners) who have to go to work, then wait till night to mess with a new M50.. I'm full time at it right now (Luckily, I'm a full-time musician/Studio operator). Literally spending 8 to 10 hrs per day trying to figure this thing out to it's full potential.

Just my 2 cents!

Mike

FifthElement · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject:

Acoustic pianos, EPs, organs, guitars, strings, brass and other "real" sounds are what many players buy a keyboard for - particularly if they play live in a band.

They are also a good way to evaluate a keyboard. Synthy, swoopy sounds are easy to create, but emulating a real acoustic instrument is much harder - just one of the reasons that Korg lost it's dominance in the market to Roland and Yamaha in recent years.

The ROMpler sounds are actually a big part of the market and it looks like Korg might finally have something to win some of it back. Which is why they need people to hear how good these "bread and butter" sounds are.

If I wanted my new board to sound like a D50 - I'd have kept the one I had all those years ago!

klarnet basowy · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject:

FifthElement · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject:

YamahaForums · Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:27 am Post subject:

It's very simple really. Korg need to employ a guy like Bert Smorenburg who demo's Yamaha gear. That guy could sell ice to Eskimos! Wink

but his main talent is being able to show all aspects of an instrument in a exciting and dynamic way.

If I were to rely on demo vids from Korg and Roland I would never have bought either of their products.

Best thing is get to a store and demo it for yourself. Also preferably go to a specialist store where they should have someone who can show you the full range of what the instrument can do.

Personally I absolutely love the M50. I have to say though, the official video from Korg was actually putting me off buying one! Good job I used a bit of common sense and checked it out for myself Smile

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EJ2 · Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject:

Did you check out the other youtube videos for the M50? There are quite a few more ... and most of them give a very decent presentation of the M50.
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valen · Joined: 05 Nov 2008 Posts: 4

I am in the first camp. I want to hear how the "real" instruments sound because I play (guitar) in a classic rock band and now want to add some keys. How is the Piano , EP, Organs , Horns , Strings in the M50 compared to Roland say Juno Stage or lower end Fantom ?

Synthoid · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject:

FifthElement · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject:

The Juno stage sound set is based on the FantomX sound set (used in the Sonic Cell), including the best 88 note FantomX piano. I've owned an X7 fairly recently.

To me, this sound set on the Stage actually sounds better, they seem to have "tweaked" the sounds (particularly organs) and maybe the output is cleaner/better resolution or whatever. It's always subjective, but it did sound good for this price level.

Having said that, the M50 sounds were very impressive too. I'm really torn between the two now, although I would have to go for the M50 88 as the 76 note isn't available - and anyway that Korg 88 keybed is really nice!

YamahaForums · Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject:

Personally I would say, as a guitarist myself that Roland and Yamaha have much better acoustic guitars. The one's on the M50 are ok but they really don't sound as realistic as Rolands or Yamaha. I have owned the Fantom X6, Fantom XA and JunoG so I can compare quite well.

The Piano's on the M50 sound fine to me, probably not as warm as Roland's offerings but certainly up there with the best.

People may be forgetting that the M50 is an "entry" level synth. It does what it does very well but you can't expect it to do everything we all want. That's why it doesn't cost a fortune. It is however exceptionally good value for money.

The only way to know for sure though is to actually play the thing side by side with a Roland or Yamaha because that's the only way you are going to tell if it's right for you and will suite your particular needs.
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