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[georgnik]

Hello my friends,

I am desperate to find a solution on the following problem...:

I have both Trinity-Keyboard and Trinity-Rack and I am trying to copy-transfer the sounds from the keyboard to the Rack. I dumped the data from the keyboard via midi (created a syx file) to the computer. Then, I tried to send this syx-file through midi to the Rack but it is NOT working! Its displaying on the end of the procedure: "Unexpected external error..." or something like that.

What am I doing wrong? Can you please describe me the exact procedure step-by-step please?
I have to tell you, that I checked... There is no write-protection activated (or at least I thing so...). Can you also tell me that? How do i deactivate any kind of write-protection.

P.S: Software I am using: Bome's SendSX

[Timo]

Hi Georgnik,

The first stumbling block I can think of is that the TR-Rack has 8mb additional multisample and drumsample PCM waveforms that aren't available in the Trinity.

More specific info shown below (courtesy of John aka JKR01W):-

[pegnafroy]

Timo:

The question points to the opposite: load into the rack the keyboard sounds.

I haven't a tr-rack (of course that i want one of it for me), so i can't help so much.

But, pointing to the answer of Timo, if you want to load the rack sounds into the keyboard, then if the patch use a flash rom multisample, then the keyboard will sound like birds on those patches.

The error that show the rack is for midi transmission.

I suspect that you need to use 2 midi cables, since the rack need to confirm the reception. But again, it's an idea, not a fact.

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[Kontrol49]

You should be able to dump the Keyboard sounds directly into the Rack,I've done this many times, You have to set the Global midi channels to the same number and enabled Sys ex reception on the rack and the Keyboard.
(Trinity Midi out >Rack Midi in),You don't need to connect the Rack out to Trinity Midi in,as sys ex handshaking is not needed in this situation for simple dumping of patches

There should be no problems with dumping rack sounds back to the Keyboard either,after all the PCG data is still the same its the PCM samples that are different,so any sounds using those Extra PCM sounds on the Rack will not sound on the keyboard,due to the PCM data not being present,You also have to remember that the Rack has more banks of sounds than the Keyboard model(Unless you have the PBS board fitted)but this shouldn't reallt present any problems,Although I had the PBS board fitted so my Sys ex data was saved as 4 banks like the Rack,but would have thought the standard 2 banks in the Trinity should dump fine into a TR rack

You can also remotely control most of the editing parameters on the Rack by using the keyboard parameters in realtime,(so long as the Global channels match and the sys ex trx/rcx options are on,(You may want to connect the Midi out of the rack to the Midi in on the keyboard in this instance for Handshaking purposes)

I wish I kept my Trinity Keyboard for this as the Rack is a little bit like painting your house through the letterbox trying to Edit in such a meany LCD screen

I saved much of my Trinity Keyboard data as system exclusive on my Triton Extreme,and then dumped them directly from the Triton into the TR Rack again with no problems,I would suspect the problems your experiencing are from not setting up the Midi/Sys ex menus corretly for transmission or you may want to double check your Midi cable as well

[georgnik]

All of your suggestions were already applied without any positive feedback from the Rack... I thing the solution will be to "deliver" the Rack to the service asking them to "make the job done"...

If anyone has a more "concrete" idea, concerning the "exact" procedure it would be always welcome...

Thanks in advance!

[Kontrol49]

[georgnik]

I am not the owner of the keyboard...that's why I want to copy the sounds from it...

And as I said I have tried all of those things...(direct connections)

I thing I will try now to dump the data separately... First the programs only, then the combis only etc...

[MusiKman]