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Can anyone shed some light on any of these questions?

 
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Blazer



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:47 am    Post subject: Can anyone shed some light on any of these questions? Reply with quote

Let's say that you route the digital outputs and/or the analog outputs from the Kronos to your audio interface. How would you coordinate the Kronos editor/librarian which is MIDI only with your audio only I/0 being routed into your sequencer? Wouldn't you end up juggling back and forth between viewing these two sets of settings? Doesn't Kronos have to be set to Local Off when using it with a computer sequencer (I would assume so)? Well, if Kronos is set to Local Off, then how would you trigger Karma? How do you go about recording Karma into the computer? When you send a program change command from your computer sequencer to Kronos will it change the Kronos combination or the patches within the combination? Are the program change commands able to address the correct sound engines within Kronos? I genuinely feel that these are viable questions and legitimate concerns. Is anyone willing to chime in?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: Can anyone shed some light on any of these questions? Reply with quote

Blazer wrote:
Let's say that you route the digital outputs and/or the analog outputs from the Kronos to your audio interface. How would you coordinate the Kronos editor/librarian which is MIDI only with your audio only I/0 being routed into your sequencer? Wouldn't you end up juggling back and forth between viewing these two sets of settings?


I don't understand this question, sorry.

Blazer wrote:
Doesn't Kronos have to be set to Local Off when using it with a computer sequencer (I would assume so)?


As with most instruments, it can be used either with Local On or Off. This also depends on the MIDI Through settings in your sequencer.

Blazer wrote:
Well, if Kronos is set to Local Off, then how would you trigger Karma? How do you go about recording Karma into the computer?


Look up "KARMA External Routing" in the Global chapter OASYS Parameter Guide (or the KRONOS manuals, when they become available). KARMA can be controlled from the MIDI input, and can transmit MIDI as well.

You can download the OASYS manuals here:

https://www.korguser.net/oasys/download/#manuals

Blazer wrote:
When you send a program change command from your computer sequencer to Kronos will it change the Kronos combination or the patches within the combination?


Either or both, as you wish. See the "MIDI Filter" parameters in the Global chapter, which coincidentally are right next to "KARMA External Routing." Very Happy

Blazer wrote:
Are the program change commands able to address the correct sound engines within Kronos?


Program change commands can access any Program and/or Combination in the KRONOS. There is no restriction regarding which sound engine are used.

Hope this helps,

Dan
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much Dan for your prompt response!

You have indeed shed some light on the subject.

I will download the Oasys manuals and go from there.

Thanks again! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:42 am    Post subject: Only one page in the Oasys Parameter deals with this subject Reply with quote

And one page is not much to go on. Here's what it says:

You can play the OASYS’s keyboard and record your
performance on an external MIDI sequencer/computer
(connected via a MIDI interface), and then play back
the recorded performance to sound the OASYS’s tone
generator (i.e., using the OASYS as an input keyboard
and MIDI tone generator). To do this, connect the MIDI
OUT and MIDI IN connectors of the OASYS and your
external MIDI sequencer/ computer to each other.
Local Control On settings
When connections are made as shown above, turn on
the Echo Back function of the external MIDI sequencer
or computer (so that data received at MIDI IN will be
re‐transmitted from MIDI OUT), and turn off the
OASYS’s Local Control setting (so that the OASYS’s
keyboard and tone generator will be internally
disconnected).
When you play the keyboard of the OASYS, the
musical data will be transmitted to the external MIDI
sequencer or computer, and then echoed back to play
the OASYS’s tone generator. In other words, by turning
Local Control OFF, you can prevent notes from being
sounded in duplicate, as would otherwise occur if a
note were sounded by the OASYS’s own keyboard and
again by the data that was echoed‐back.
To turn off Local Control, press the “Local Control On”
(Global P1: 1–1a) check box to uncheck it.
When using the OASYS by itself, leave Local Control
turned on. (If this is off when the OASYS is used by
itself, playing the keyboard will not produce sound.)
When using the KARMA function, the Global KARMA
External MIDI Routing settings and the local control
on/off setting will determine how the function is
controlled, as follows. For more information, see
“KARMA External Routing” on page 712.
Here are the settings to use if you want an external
MIDI sequencer or computer to record only the notes
that trigger the KARMA function, and control the
KARMA function using the notes that are echoed‐back
during recording or playback.
When the KARMA function is turned on, playing the
OASYS’ keyboard will not trigger the KARMA
function; the notes you play on the keyboard will only
be transmitted. The KARMA function will operate only
on the notes that are echoed‐back and received at MIDI
IN. This prevents the KARMA function from being
applied in duplicate, and ensures that it will operate
correctly.
Note: You can also make these settings by using the
page menu command “Setup KARMA External MIDI
Routing”= Send the output of KARMA to external
device/sequencer. For more information, see “Set Up
KARMA External MIDI Routing” on page 744.
Here are the settings to use if you want the note data
generated by the KARMA function to be transmitted
via MIDI and recorded on your external sequencer or
computer.
Note: You can also make these settings by using the
page menu command “Setup KARMA External MIDI
Routing”= Trigger KARMA generation from external
device/sequencer.
Messages transmitted and received by the OASYS
In the text below, […] indicates hexadecimal notation.
MIDI channels
MIDI messages can be exchanged when the
transmitting and receiving devices are set to the same
MIDI channel. MIDI uses sixteen channels, numbered
1–16. The way in which channels are handled will
differ depending on the mode.
Program mode and Sampling mode
• Transmission/reception is performed on the global
MIDI channel.
The global MIDI channel is the basic channel that
the OASYS uses for MIDI transmission/reception,
and is set by MIDI Channel (Global 1–1a).
Combination mode
• The global MIDI channel is used to transmit/
receive messages for selecting a combination and
turning effects on/off, and to transmit/receive
exclusive data.
• Each timbre will transmit/receive MIDI data on the
MIDI Channel (Combination 2–1a) that is specified
for that timbre.
• The Ch MIDI channel specified for each effect
(Combination 8–7a, 9–2a, 9–3, 9–4, 9–5) is used to
control dynamic modulation of the insert/master/
total effects, the pan following the insert effect, and
send 1 and 2.
• When you operate the keyboard or controllers of
the OASYS, messages will be transmitted on the
computer
MIDI IN
OASYS
MIDI interface
MIDI OUT MIDI IN
MIDI OUT
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Blazer



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like we'll just have to wait until Korg posts a Kronos manual and/or screenshots and hopefully a video. Rats....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are your remaining questions? Kronos manual is the same here...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Here's one more Question... Reply with quote

I see that the M3 manual has a section on the M3 editor/librarian plugin.

I assume Kronos will as well.

Will Kronos have user templates like the M3 has for Cubase, Logic ect.?
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