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EvilDragon Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 1992 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed. Except on Fantom you sacrifice HALF of FX power and you can have only 8 parts. While on Kurzweil you have to calculate FX units and watch if you're using the same FX modules across FX chains and the like, and then again KB3 is a whole different mode with its own behavior. Not the easiest way to do it, but can be done.
Kronos does this effortlessly and without needing any pointers or calculations from the user, which is absolutely great, even to a Kurzweil die-hard like me. |
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1549 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Jim,
If you are happy with the Roland, I would just get some kind of module and MIDI the module to get your pads. I think it is very unlikely that the another keyboard will sound as good as what you are hearing. I mean, you are happy right now, just need a module to provide pads. _________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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Jim Robbins/SOLO PIANO
Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 11 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Zeroesque. BTW, Love rock instrumental fusion. I see you have Marco Sfogli as a guest guitarist. Glad you're doing stuff that not only showcases great chops, but melodic content as well. Keep it up. _________________ Jim Robbins
- keyboards, solo piano, music scoring
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Jim Robbins/SOLO PIANO
Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 11 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, EvilDragon. Sounds like Kronos really can do what I'm looking for. _________________ Jim Robbins
- keyboards, solo piano, music scoring
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Jim Robbins/SOLO PIANO
Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 11 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Aron,
I thought of getting a module, but wondered how to layer them in real time with the acoustic piano, and whether or not I could change the levels and characteristics of the various layers easily. Any thoughts? _________________ Jim Robbins
- keyboards, solo piano, music scoring
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1549 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:13 am Post subject: |
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>I thought of getting a module, but wondered how to layer them in real time with the acoustic piano, and whether or not I could change the levels and characteristics of the various layers easily. Any thoughts?
I used to use a small MIDI control surface. It's a small panel top with faders and buttons. All you do is send the MIDI out from your Roland to the MIDI in of the control surface, then send that to the module.
I think Kurzweil was thinking of a PC3 rack at one point. However, since you have a great piano sound now, all you would need is a decent MIDI module. Although I am getting a Kronos, I will have to see if the piano sounds are really that good. I already have software pianos and none of them really are like a piano. To me, no one has gotten the sound of the sustain pedal held down correctly. _________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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Jim Robbins/SOLO PIANO
Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 11 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Aron,
I think another good reason for me to get an additional keyboard such as the Kronos is because my Roland has been in the shop twice in the last few months -- it's got a great piano sound -- but is probably 10 years old. I need a back-up so that I don't loose gigs.
Where have you ordered the Kronos from? Does everyone essentially have it listed at the same price-point? [$3,799?] _________________ Jim Robbins
- keyboards, solo piano, music scoring
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Mystic38 Senior Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2010 Posts: 266
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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didnt know about pc3 (and actually kurweill in general)..
hopefully the 8 parts was obvious...given its a 16 part multitimbral synth.. with patch switching you have 8 new parts plus the 8 old parts in sustain is...umm.... lol
EvilDragon wrote: | Indeed. Except on Fantom you sacrifice HALF of FX power and you can have only 8 parts. While on Kurzweil you have to calculate FX units and watch if you're using the same FX modules across FX chains and the like, and then again KB3 is a whole different mode with its own behavior. Not the easiest way to do it, but can be done.
Kronos does this effortlessly and without needing any pointers or calculations from the user, which is absolutely great, even to a Kurzweil die-hard like me. |
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1549 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Jim,
I ordered mine from Full Compass. I have nothing but great things to say about them.
About the PC3, I think it's a great keyboard, but for me it's been totally unreliable. I can fill you in later (PM), but I will not ever rely upon it again for an important gig. It's let me down big time and I am very disappointed in the support. Mine is broken and in the only shop that will still take Kurzweils. Yep, around here no one wants to deal with the company.
I used to get great support. No longer since they switched to the distributor.
Aron _________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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Sina172 Platinum Member
Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 1194
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Zeroesque Senior Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 451 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Jim Robbins/SOLO PIANO wrote: | Thanks, Zeroesque. BTW, Love rock instrumental fusion. I see you have Marco Sfogli as a guest guitarist. Glad you're doing stuff that not only showcases great chops, but melodic content as well. Keep it up. |
Just saw this, Jim. Thanks for the sentiment. Listening to your stuff now...nice playing and feeling. Like it. The Roland FP isn't bad, but you and I will both benefit from the SGX-1. _________________ Kronos 61, Kronos2-88, Hammond B3, Baldwin SD-10 |
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