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drama1 Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 663
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: Anybody else have this happen? |
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At a gig Fri. and Sat. night. Playing along just fine when all of a sudden my M3 changes programs all by itself. No buttons pushed, nothing connected except for sus pedal. Set up the M3 at home Sunday, happens again intermittently. It always changes program/combi one slot down. Can't have this happen live. Reload OS maybe? I checked cable between module and keyboard, all is well. Any ideas? Of course I'm playing twice this weekend and I need this board to work properly. I can't be playing a piano ballad and all of a sudden it switches to a karmafied gangsta rap. |
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MarPabl Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 938 Location: MX
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Really strange Check if the pedal is not connected to the foot switch plug _________________ Current gear: Access Virus TI2 Whiteout Keyboard (111/150), Access Virus TI2 Polar DarkStar Special Edition, Gibson Custom Lite 2013, Roland MV-8800 |
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drama1 Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, everything was connected properly. I thought maybe it had something to do with the electrical in the club, but it happened at home also. I hate to take the board in with a problem that only happens intermittently, but the stress of taking the board out for live use is killing me. i have to constantly watch the board to make sure it doesn't change program/combis on me. |
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billbaker Platinum Member
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 2206 Location: Vienna, Virginia, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Drama1,
Doesn't sound like OS issue.
Look under global to see what the footswitch is controlling and if it is set to inc/dec try selecting some other parameter or none in case the FS is closing intermittently for some reason.
Also try this: get some "canned air" (high pressure air only in and aerosol can with needle type extension) and blow out in and around both the up/down increment buttons and the footswitch jack.
Changing environments, specifically temperature and moisture, can make intermittent things like this happen.
Also check to see that there are no parts rattling around inside (a loose screw could bridge the connections in the FS and might move to other parts of the instrument). Rattle = BAD.
BB _________________ billbaker
Triton Extreme 88, Triton Classic Pro, Trinity V3 Pro
+E-mu, Alesis, Korg, Kawai, Yamaha, Line-6, TC Elecronics, Behringer, Lexicon... |
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drama1 Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, Mr. Baker. I'll give your suggestions a try and let you know. |
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Synthoid Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Posts: 3300 Location: PA, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody else have this happen? |
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drama1 wrote: | all of a sudden my M3 changes programs all by itself. |
It's happened to me a couple times with both my M3 and Triton. Not sure what caused it though.
Hasn't done it in awhile and only happened once live, thank God!
_________________ M3, Triton Classic, Radias, Motif XS, Alesis Ion |
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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It's always worth considering that playing aggressively or in situations with loud sound levels (vibration conduction), the alpha wheel or value slider could turn/move slightly.
Try selecting a parameter or something else on the screen such that the data entry controls won't change patch. Then see if it happens. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
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Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
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Muji Full Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Posts: 209
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:17 am Post subject: Re: Anybody else have this happen? |
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drama1 wrote: | It always changes program/combi one slot down. I can't be playing a piano ballad and all of a sudden it switches to a karmafied gangsta rap. |
This may or may not be practical, but you could copy the combi (or program) to a free bank where there is no slot below it or to a location where the slot below it is less of an abrupt annoyance. _________________ -Muji-
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StudioLogic VMK-176+ Keyboard Controller
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drama1 Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:32 am Post subject: |
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This forum is GREAT. I took the module off the keyboard, used compressed air on all the buttons/sliders, recalibrated aftertouch, pads and screen, double checked foot controls, after I put it all together, turned it on, it did it again. For some reason I touched the alpha wheel and it felt like it was between notches. Doooh. I sure hope that was it. I'll keep you all updated. A little off topic, after much consideration I've decided to keep the M3 and hold off on Kronos. Let's see what NAMM brings. Thanks again to all. |
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iixorbiusii Full Member
Joined: 30 Aug 2008 Posts: 198
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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drama1 wrote: | ... For some reason I touched the alpha wheel and it felt like it was between notches. Doooh. I sure hope that was it. ... |
Sounds like it... This happens to me on occasion with the M3, and IIRC, the Trinity did the same.
Very rare, but I guess to be safe if you're performing, just click the datawheel to the next firm notch during the set-up, and then it should be fine. _________________ CURRENT GEAR: A yellowing Casio PT-80, 4 leaking batteries and some broken headphones.
WISHLIST: A PSU and some different headphones. |
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