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FBB69
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 7 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:13 pm Post subject: Bank selecting from external sequencer problem |
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For years, I've been using a Yamaha QX3 midi recorder and all I had to do was inpuy Control change 032 00 to02 for the banks on my Kurzweil PC88MX (plus a programme number of course)
Now I have a Kronos, I can't seem to work out what bank control numbers to use!??
Programme numbers come out fine of course, but the bank numbers seem to come out randomly.
As you can't ask a manual questions, I thought I'd put it to the vote!
Anybody????
Cheers
Toni |
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Francois Approved Merchant
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 4854 Location: Northants - UK
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kaptainkeyboard Full Member
Joined: 19 May 2013 Posts: 167 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Toni
I'm not gonna pretend to know what is going on in the following extract from the Parameter Guide, but you may be able to decipher if for use in your QX3.
Bank Map
MIDI Bank Select messages work in conjunction with
Program Change messages to select Programs and
Combinations.
Bank Select uses two MIDI CCs: CC#0 for the upper
byte, and CC#32 lower byte.
The table below shows how Bank Select messages are
mapped to the internal Program and Combination
banks.
INT–A 00. 00
INT–B 00. 01
INT–C 00. 02
INT–D 00. 03
INT–E 00. 04
INT–F 00. 05
USER–A 00. 08
USER–B 00. 09
USER–C 00. 10
USER–D 00. 11
USER–E 00. 12
USER–F 00. 13
USER–G 00. 14
USER–AA 00. 15
USER–BB 00. 16
USER–CC 00. 17
USER–DD 00. 18
USER–EE 00. 19
USER–FF 00. 20
USER–GG 00. 21
I have no way of checking how all that stuff works in real time, but if you're struggling with it, perhaps one of the forum Pro guys can help you out. |
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kaptainkeyboard Full Member
Joined: 19 May 2013 Posts: 167 Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Francois wrote: | http://www.kronoscopie.fr/selection-banques-modes.html
Look at the table showing the Ctrl0/32 and program change combinations. It's taken from the Kronos parameters manual. |
Ooops - sorry Francois, that is a much better response than my effort... |
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Francois Approved Merchant
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 4854 Location: Northants - UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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No worries.
There is a detailed explanation too on how to use this info, but it is in French. However, Google Translate may give you enough of a gist for it to be useful.
The examples given should be easy enough to understand. _________________
Kronoscopie, tout sur le Kronos en français
http://www.kronoscopie.fr |
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FBB69
Joined: 03 Sep 2013 Posts: 7 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:18 pm Post subject: Sequencer control numbers |
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Thanks to Kaptain and Francois.
Merci beaucoup!
I was almost there with the control number business (basically works same way I've always done it) but seems I was missing out on the how to set the Kronos up to receive outside broadcasts!
I now put it in sequencer mode (that's part of which control numbers to use) and all the banks and programmes work fine.
I just ran out if available time today and still need to work out how to get it to play the G (general midi) bank but I'm sure that will become evident once I put my head on again tomorrow!
Once again thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Cheers
Toni Baker |
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danatkorg Product Manager, Korg R&D
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 4204 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Sequencer control numbers |
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FBB69 wrote: | Thanks to Kaptain and Francois.
Merci beaucoup!
I was almost there with the control number business (basically works same way I've always done it) but seems I was missing out on the how to set the Kronos up to receive outside broadcasts!
I now put it in sequencer mode (that's part of which control numbers to use) and all the banks and programmes work fine.
I just ran out if available time today and still need to work out how to get it to play the G (general midi) bank but I'm sure that will become evident once I put my head on again tomorrow!
Once again thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Cheers
Toni Baker |
Bank Select will work in all modes - no need to use Sequencer Mode.
The CC#0 and #32 values for each bank, including GM, are detailed in the Parameter Guide, as Francois and kaptainkeyboard note:
Global P0: Basic Setup -> 0–1: Basic Setup -> 0–1d: System Preference -> Bank Map _________________ Dan Phillips
Manager of Product Development, Korg R&D
Personal website: www.danphillips.com
For technical support, please contact your Korg Distributor: http://www.korg.co.jp/English/Distributors/
Regretfully, I cannot offer technical support directly.
If you need to contact me for purposes other than technical support, please do not send PMs; instead, send email to dan@korgrd.com |
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jahrome Senior Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 378 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Bank Select works great when using the MPC Renaissance with the Kronos. I spent a lot of time communicating with Akai to make sure the Renaissance was right as Kronos is my go-to workstation.
One day I hope the Renaissance with support XML scripts so I can read the name of my Kronos patches in my MPC. _________________ Tool box: Kronos 61, Fantom FA06, ASR-10, MPCX, MPC Live, and MPC 4000. |
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