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KORG KIDDING US! PA3X IS BETTER THAN 4?
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Do you think that KORG PA4X worth buying?
Yes
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 48%  [ 29 ]
No
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Bachus
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="nitecrawler"]
Dikikeys wrote:

How about it. Are you still gonna stick with that Roland Rolling Eyes , or upgrade to the Pa4x?

Twisted Evil


Offcourse not, the man has a general interest in all arranger keyboards, but sold his souk to Roland like 2 decades ago.


nitecrawler wrote:

While not a PA instrument, the Old Oasys has the ability to add 12 insert effects, 2 MFX and 2 TFX per program (sound). In combi mode, i e multiple program mode; this configuration is modified by allowing up to 12 insert effects for the total group of sounds, or less. And insert effects can be grouped or shared. The MFX and TFX at two each are shared among the sounds. Amounts of M & T effects can be dialed in (0 to 127) per each sound. Send and return. Not knowing your interpretation of effects structure, I would say this is pretty close.
Wink


Dikikeys wrote:
Yep... knew that about the Oasys (even the Kronos has less, right?), but was referring to an arranger.



The Kronos has the same number of effects.. 12 insert effects freely assignable. My tyros 5 has 9. But the award for most effects definately goes to Kurzweil. The Kurzweil Forte has 32 effects units, each assignable to insert or master, or send.. and an effects unit can host an effect chain of several effects...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty happy with my BK-9, still. Light as a feather, sounds great, cheap (already bought and paid for!), half the price of the PA4X76, simple to operate (my friend's PA3X drives me insane how unintuitive it's operation and editing are!).

Don't need samplers or in depth sound editing. Got VSTis and a K2500S for studio use. For me, a live keyboard needs to be simple, cover the basses without a lot of work or extra sample sets, sound live and open, be easy to operate and edit.

Don't get me wrong... the PA3/4X is a great keyboard. It just isn't what I need.

I like simplicity on the gig, complexity in the studio. Twisted Evil

My soul is doing fine, LOL It includes many makes... I even have a cherished Triton! I am not a one make zealot. But Roland have filled my arranger needs for decades, yes. They aren't without fault, but what is? Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, my BK-9... 5 MFX. 3 for SMF/Style Parts, 2 for Keyboard Parts. Not chainable.

I am perplexed how Korg thought stripping back on the keyboard Part MFX was a good idea.

Me, my ideal doesn't need too many. One per Keyboard Part seems about right (so my BK-9 would only need two more!). Unfortunately, the latest Roland (E-A7) has dropped some of them, too, or at least only included the same as the current BK-5. So Korg isn't alone in cutting the wrong things!

But even if 12 MFX is overkill, it would be nice if each Part you played, when you called up the Tone, called up the appropriate MFX too. Having to play hopscotch assigning different Parts to the limited number of MFX seems such a waste of time and energy!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dikikeys wrote:

I like simplicity on the gig, complexity in the studio. Twisted Evil


wise words...


Translated to people with a single arranger :
-simplicity in the top user interface... (buttons)
-deep edditing under the hood in a menu structure, or just on remote programs on a big PC screen... I dont think anyone will ever require deep edditing when playing live.

Thats why i love T5 so much... simple tools easy to use when you just want to sit and play..
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Dikikeys
How many keyboard you own. looks like you have all of them Smile
You are genius on all of them . Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nemik wrote:
@Dikikeys
How many keyboard you own. looks like you have all of them Smile

You are genius on all of them . Wink


The first is far from true, dammit! Fewer than you'd think. A piano, the Kurzweil (still amazing) Triton, KX-5 keytar and BK-7m module (not really as an arranger, more a killer sound module for live playing with the KX-5), G70, BK-9. That's it for daily use. Then some older gear usually in storage. Korg CX-3 (original one), DX-7, Ensoniq SQ2, Oberheim XPander. Then some sold over the years. Good balance of sounds and capabilities, but hardly up to the rigs some here sport! Wink

And the second, I hope, is sarcasm, LOL! Twisted Evil
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