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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:28 am    Post subject: Stems Reply with quote

I was hoping the new audio format for stems would be supported by this next generation of Arrangers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwvruBemORc
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well... Arrangers is Digital Music machine, which giving availability to control track separately, at least in theory Smile
Stem file format is more analog that digital.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nemik wrote:
well... Arrangers is Digital Music machine, which giving availability to control track separately, at least in theory Smile
Stem file format is more analog that digital.
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So we also need to cut the MP3 player?

Stems is an MP4 with 4 sepperate tracks.. and has nothing to do with difference between analogue and digital.. Its strictly digital..

Having Stems would give live performing artists a strong tool when performing as a OMB and competing against deejays for playing weddings.. it gives you the same mixing possibilities as the pro deejays..

and we all know when playing a wedding, the youth will eventually come and ask for real Dance Music..
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Bachus
You right Wink
I give up.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stems has yet to be even accepted as a common standard for audio distribution.

Might be best to wait until the dust settles. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Ketron SD7 has this technology. You can play the file and mix the volume levels of the MP3. Has to be special format. I haven't really investigated it yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonM wrote:
I think the Ketron SD7 has this technology. You can play the file and mix the volume levels of the MP3. Has to be special format. I haven't really investigated it yet.
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Yes, SD7 has comparable technollogy, but that does not use the new standard..
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonM wrote:
You can play the file and mix the volume levels of the MP3.
DonM

Yes if you have individual tracks .
"To manage the audio tracks of the base separately and work on multitracks as seen in the various demonstration videos available on the internet, it is necessary that the file is specially created and to do that you must have all the various separate tracks at source; in other words, the keyboard is not able to split alone the individual parts of an audio track (bass, vocal or those of the battery), but merely reproduces in a synchronous manner, the individual tracks within a multichannel wave file."

https://giorgiomarinangeli.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/audio-multitracks-per-sd7/
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gargy wrote:
DonM wrote:
You can play the file and mix the volume levels of the MP3.
DonM

Yes if you have individual tracks .
"To manage the audio tracks of the base separately and work on multitracks as seen in the various demonstration videos available on the internet, it is necessary that the file is specially created and to do that you must have all the various separate tracks at source; in other words, the keyboard is not able to split alone the individual parts of an audio track (bass, vocal or those of the battery), but merely reproduces in a synchronous manner, the individual tracks within a multichannel wave file."

https://giorgiomarinangeli.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/audio-multitracks-per-sd7/


Thats the same idea as with the Stems file format...

Tough, they are trying to make a new commercial standard of the Stems format.. a lossless multitrack version of MP3's
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think, in an era of dwindling profit for music simply mixed to stereo, what producer is going to take the extra time and expense of releasing it in a stems format unless that extra time and effort is monetized considerably?

Not to mention the loss of control over copyright for the writer and producer if there is an explosion in stems that will make widespread third party use of your carefully crafted content a nightmare to police and monetize?

Unless people are willing to pay through the nose for remixing capabilities (and rampant piracy seems to indicate that people aren't even willing to pay the pittance currently charged for stereo mixes!), I don't see this becoming more than a niche format, possibly just for the EDM crowd.
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