Korg Forums

[AudioProCT]

This is a multi-part question, I will explain each part and then hopefully it can be tied together.

Playing in a cover band requires allot of self made programs with splits layers, samples, and backing track playbacks.

1) Patches

Almost all songs will have custom patches made, these patches will probably include 1-2 split points on the keyboard with layers. Some of the tunes are Medleys, so switching patches, sometimes up to 8 different keyboard layouts

2) organization

Since some of the medleys will require 8 sub patches, can they be under 1 label, like " Queen Medley " Also, when they are made, can they be alphabetized for quick selection.

3) in these patches, especially the Medleys there will be backing tracks, sometimes 4-5 during the medley, how can they be implemented to be called up in the patches and going out separate outs. Also while backing track 1 is being played, the ability to also continue to change sounds or patches in the medley without interrupting the track, then going to track 2, etc

I'm sure I didn't explain everything correctly but for reference, this is being done with a Tyros 5.

A registration is made and named, " Queen Medley "
once the registration is selected, there are spots for 8 sub registrations, with each registration having the ability for 4 backing tracks, which can continue as other regs in the bank are selected. and 3 upper tones and one lower tone with layers and/or splits.

I believe something close to this can be done with a PA4x, except the PA4x is limited to 4 instead of 8 patches per songbook entry, and 2 backing tracks.

Thanks[/list]
_________________
www.audioworksct.com

[enigmahack]

[AudioProCT]

Can I have a combi program, and within that have 8 sub selections or sub programs, lets say I take the first 3 instruments and create 1 set-up, then 4 and 5, to make the second, and so on, are there ways to access that or mute the others so the selection process can be quick. Also this will allow 1 combi to have 8 different sub combis

I'm trying to avoid my setlist saying

Queen medley 1
Queen medley 2
Queen medley 3

and so on
_________________
www.audioworksct.com

[enigmahack]

When you say "Combi Program" you're saying two different things. It's like saying "Car truck"

Combi is a collection of programs, laid across the keyboard however you want.

You could have up to 16 programs at the same time attached to 1 combi. Each channel has it's own mixing, EQ, effects, levels and so on. You also have the ability to mute and unmute various channels while in Combi mode.

Personally, I would have a setlist that says something more like:

1. Piano + Strings
2. Piano + BigStrings
3. Solo Piano
and so on.

Combi's don't have sub-combi's. That's not how it works.

Think of it more like a recording studio, where you can assign up to 16 different programs or sounds to 16 separate tracks, and they're triggered by your keyboard. Each layer can have separate zones, volumes, etc.

That is what a combi is, but to answer your question generally:

Yes you can do what you're asking.
_________________
Korg Kronos 88 2, Korg Kronos 73, Kurzweil K2600S
Sound developer, custom sound designer and trainer/Kronos support - www.audora.ca for details!

[SanderXpander]

I was thrown off by the line "this is done with a Tyros 5". Where does the Kronos come in?

[voip]

A YouTube search for Spike Edney Queen should come up with a "behind the scenes with the Korg Kronos" video in which he describes how the keyboard performances used by the band are split and layered. It should give plenty of ideas, including selling the Tyros 5 and getting a Kronos! ;-)

.

[enigmahack]

[LZ]

If you're going to also be doing backing tracks, you need to use Songs, not combis. A song can have up to 16 sounds in any combination of split, layer, and/or sequenced, as well as up to 16 audio tracks. You'll still use set list mode as described.

So for your medley you'll use one song but have multiple instances in the set list. Besides your sequenced or audio tracks, you'll set up all of the sounds you will play on other tracks. You determine whether they will be split or layered by assigning upper/lower key range of each sound. To start, all the sounds you'll play will be assigned to the global MIDI channel (most likely 1). For the next group of sounds you want to play, set up additional tracks all assigned to midi channel 2, and so on. In set list mode, put as many instances of the song as there are different groups of patches you want to play, and select the track that corresponds to the group you want to play. You can name the slots in the song list stuff like Queen Medley 1, Queen Medley 2, etc. Hit play and the track starts, when you hit different slots on the set list, the song will continue to play except you'll be able to play different tracks per the assignment of that slot.

Within the song, each track can be assigned to L/R or any of the individual outputs.
_________________

[SanderXpander]

Right, well if the OP is planning to use backing tracks AND multiple splits/setups per song that could become problematic since he would have to do it all within one sequence. That means 16 parts and 12IFX total, even when using audio tracks for the backings. Less if the backings are midi based. On the other hand, because the Kronos works as a class compliant audio interface, hooking up an iPad, PC or Mac via USB would be an easy way to manage backing tracks, leaving you free to use however many combis and programs you want for every song.

[AudioProCT]

Thanks LZ, I thought that would be the only solution
_________________
www.audioworksct.com

[ErnstDabest]

The obvious answer here, and I'm surprise no one mentioned this.. is to play w/ multiple KBs.


_________________