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eli125
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on alibaba.com you can get a pa4x or tyros 5 for 700 daller how can it be
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try it out, and tell us about the scam later. 
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Sam CA
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| Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| eli125 wrote: | | ... how can it be |
Cool! How much does a Porsche go for on Alibaba these days? You mean people actually fall for these ads? They probably do, otherwise it wouldn't pay for scammers to waste their time I guess. Come on! 
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mabcomp
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:59 am Post subject: Alibaba |
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Come on now think about it, ALIBABA & The Forty Thieves. Its not rocket science.
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siebenhirter
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:05 pm Post subject: Alibaba |
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| fResH_ wrote: | | try it out, and tell us about the scam later. |
Alibaba actually only offers Korg Pa4X ORIENTAL 76-Key Arranger Keyboard (PERFORMER PAK).
Difference of price is the gross margin and ensure you buy like a wholesaler. As a customer you may take it with no guarantee of services expected.
Currently AliExpress attaches great importance to the development of trust and provides comprehensive fault protection for each purchase. And the coffers of the profitable Chinese is so full that they can not afford an obliging dealing with problem cases relaxed.
Scam I would not automatically assume unfounded.
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mabcomp
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:47 pm Post subject: Alibaba |
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OK so back to the original question how can they sell the PA4X at such a low price. ??
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Alibaba |
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| mabcomp wrote: | | OK so back to the original question how can they sell the PA4X at such a low price. ?? |
I think a consicerable portion of the total price goes to taxes and reseller margins, resulting in an average net sales price of 650. Think this is the amount one actually receive and can use to make a product like Pa4x. So an simplistic assumption, realistic and practical maybe an answer:
Average consumer price incl average 20% vat (4000) 1000
Taxes and reseller margin: (3250) 250
Production (material, manufacturing): 650
Investments (developing, project): 50
Operationg costs (sale, IT, administrations): 50
Two classes deeper with features similar to the PA600 I think you will get the next-generation arranger workstation from china, powered by latest sound technology, enhanced style engine etc with an average consumer price approximately maybe with 400 ( assumption 400/100/260/20/20) also without alibaba.
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Nemik
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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before you grab your credit card and pay there, maybe you like to read people reviews about experience on this website. 
http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.alibaba.com
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siebenhirter
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:14 am Post subject: alibaba |
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Transactions via internet always are recommended to be made carefully.
Frequently especially small suppliers in ALIBABA are simply not "Reputated FACTORIES" but are sub-dealers (AGENTS) buying from factories.
So it is to ensure whether the Chinese business partner is a real factory or a well-known real trustworthy sub-dealer or agent to not get an production-rejected unit.
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Bernie9
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Well said. I have used the site many times for small items and have been very satisfied, but something of that magnitude at a ridiculous price is beyond suspect.
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mabcomp
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 4:12 pm Post subject: Alibaba |
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So those reviews really say it all don't they, hey it's bad enough trying to get a reply out of Korg leave alone them.. The more you see and here the more you have to think of a certain American,s viewpoint.
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Paolo@Korg
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
While we have no information about the Alibaba seller that is probably the one referred by the original message, please consider that the asked price is way lower than the instrument's manufacturing cost.
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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They will send to you KorgPa4x cake  |
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