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Changing global settings when touchscreen doesnt work

 
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okkopekka



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:45 pm    Post subject: Changing global settings when touchscreen doesnt work Reply with quote

Hi!

If TS is dead and on global mode all karma/DT is off and also pedal polarity is in different mode than wished AND as they seem not to be changeable on pc editor, my question is, can those settings be changed via editor somehow and if so any guidance please?
Like is there any way to get those options enabled on editor for a change or can the utility options load/import help to change those, if someone provides files with different settings?
Or maybe via sysex?

Many thanks for any input.
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okkopekka



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When recording sysex with daw, for example the drum track button push on/off gets recorded on prog/combi-modes but changes on global seems not. damn.

When using editor and loading preload.m3all it seems to change that "all karma off"-setting -> great, but when transmitting it to m3, all else changes on m3 but not the "all karma off". Seems unlogical.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from the m3 sysex file:
Code:


(23) GLOBAL DATA DUMP                                                   R , T
        F0, 42, 3g, 75          Excl Header
        73                      Function
        03                      Object(Global)
        00                      Reserved
        00                      Reserved
        00                      Reserved
        0ooo oooo               Object Version          (*16)
        0ddd dddd               Data                    (*1, TABLE 4)
            :
        F7                      End of Excl


*1 DATA CONVERT METHOD(INTERNAL DATA<-->MIDI DATA)
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Internal 7byte data <convert> MIDI 8 byte data                                    |
|  example) Internal data(bit image) MIDI data(bit image)                                |
|                Aaaaaaaa            0GFEDCBA                                            |
|                Bbbbbbbb            0aaaaaaa                                            |
|                Cccccccc            0bbbbbbb                                            |
|                Dddddddd            0ccccccc                                            |
|                Eeeeeeee            0ddddddd                                            |
|                Ffffffff            0eeeeeee                                            |
|                Gggggggg            0fffffff                                            |
|                Hhhhhhhh            0ggggggg                                            |
|                Iiiiiiii            0NMLKJIH                                            |
|                   :                0hhhhhhh                                            |
|                   :                   :                                                |
|                Vvvvvvvv            000000WV                                            |
|                Wwwwwwww            0vvvvvvv                                            |
|                                    0wwwwwww                                            |
|                                    11110111 (EOX=F7H)                                  |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

*16     o = 0-2, 16


  [ TABLE 4 ] GLOBAL PARAMETERS
  No. : No. in the GLOBAL DUMP DATA.
+-----------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|  No. (bit)|      PARAMETER      |  DATA(Hex) : VALUE      |         DESCRIPTION                   |
+-----------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|     GLOBAL PARAMETER                                                                              |
+-----------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|   00      |  MASTER TUNE        |   CE~~32 : -50~~50[Cent]|                                       |
+-----------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|   01      |  KEY TRANSPOSE      |   F4~~0C : -12~~12      |                                       |
+-----------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|   02      |  VELOCITY CURVE     |   0~~7 : 1~~8           |                                       |
+-----------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|   03      |  AFTER TOUCH CURVE  |   0~~7 : 1~~8           |                                       |
+-----------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|      b0   |  FOOT SW POLARITY   |   0:-, 1:+              |                                       |
|     ------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|      b1   |  DAMPER POLARITY    |   0:-, 1:+              |                                       |
|     ------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|   04 b2   |  CONVERT POSITION   |   0:PreMIDI, 1:PostMIDI |                                       |
|     ------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|      b3   |  PROG AUTO KARMA    |   0:OFF, 1:ON           |                                       |
|     ------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|      b4   |  COMBI AUTO KARMA   |   0:OFF, 1:ON           |                                       |
|     ------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|      b5   |  ALL KARMA OFF      |   0:OFF, 1:ON           |                                       |
|     ------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|      b6   |  KNOB FADER MODE    |   0:OFF, 1:ON           |                                       |
|     ------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|      b7   |  AUTO OPTIMIZE RAM  |   0:OFF, 1:ON           |                                       | 
+-----------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|   05      |  FOOT SW ASSIGN     |   00~~57 :              |                                       |
+-----------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+
|   06      |  FOOT PEDAL ASSIGN  |   00~~32 :              |                                       |
+-----------+---------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------------------+




F0 42 3g 75 73 03 00 00 00 // beginning
0ooo oooo Object Version (*16)
0ddd dddd Data (*1, TABLE 4)
F7 //end

Does anyone know how to fill-in the Object version and Data to make a global data dump sysex message for whatever above listed option?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, but you need a new touch screen. There is no way around this....as others who experienced the same demise of the poorly engineered touch screen internal connection.
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okkopekka



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EJ2 wrote:
Sorry, but you need a new touch screen. There is no way around this....as others who experienced the same demise of the poorly engineered touch screen internal connection.


Yes, that will be the case. However, using this
F0 42 3g 75 73 03 00 00 00 // beginning
00 00 //Object Version or just 00 and other 00 being the 7->8conv.
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 // data values (like 4e,05,06,06,00,02,02)
mt kt vc at (?) fs fp
F7

these values were possible to change.
nr.
00 mt = MASTER TUNE
01 kt = KEY TRANSPOSE
02 vc = VELOCITY CURVE
03 at = AFTER TOUCH CURVE
05 fs = FOOT SW ASSIGN
06 fp = FOOT PEDAL ASSIGN

The question mark (?)was the only (necessary) part that I dont get, how to change. At least I guess it isnt any of 0-7f
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Changing global settings when touchscreen doesnt work Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Korg-M3-Touch-Screen-Touch-Panel-Repair-Kit-Original-Manufacturer-Warranty-/321835153112?hash=item4aeedeb6d8:g:bJMAAOSwAYtWQNDU



okkopekka wrote:
Hi!

If TS is dead and on global mode all karma/DT is off and also pedal polarity is in different mode than wished AND as they seem not to be changeable on pc editor, my question is, can those settings be changed via editor somehow and if so any guidance please?
Like is there any way to get those options enabled on editor for a change or can the utility options load/import help to change those, if someone provides files with different settings?
Or maybe via sysex?

Many thanks for any input.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Changing global settings when touchscreen doesnt work Reply with quote

Windsofsoul wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Korg-M3-Touch-Screen-Touch-Panel-Repair-Kit-Original-Manufacturer-Warranty-/321835153112?hash=item4aeedeb6d8:g:bJMAAOSwAYtWQNDU


Yes, that will be the answer, however, luckily when in global mode, enter+number provide shortcuts to up-right-corner dropdown-menu so it was possible to load for example factory global-settings without a working TS so now karma working, great.
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