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playboy354 · Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Posts: 43

How does one go about adding an effect such as reverb to a track that already has an insert effect assigned to it? I know you can chain but a chained effect has to be in series, one after another.

I don't want to use master efx over entire song, just certain tracks

Mike Conway · Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Reverb/Efx + insert fx

amit · Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:09 pm Post subject:

perhaps you could rephrase what you want to do,

however from what I get, you want an effect in parallel with an existing insert effect or sometinbg?

you would route your origiinal track ontp the fx bus and then use that fx bus as source. similar to how you would setup a side chain.
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19naia · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Posts: 1216

The down side of chaining is that it chains only to the ones below it in the ascending order from 1-12.
At ifx one, you can link from 1 to 2 to 3 and on and on to 12. but when you go down to another ifx slot to route to another track, it comes with all the links leading to below it.
It would be nice to link a reverb to a chorus in one track and have the same reverb linked to eq in another track. Or like that with any mix of ifx.

The obvious way around it is to set up different chain groups for each track, but with 16 tracks and only 12 ifx slots, using the same ifx in more than one track will have to happen ,when all 16 tracks are dipping into ifx routing.
If the link group is only 2 layers deep, that will be less complicated than 3 layers deep and even more complicated as you pile them on 4 layers deep or more.

So is the reason for why kronos auto manages ifx routing in combi and sequencer mode. Try filling a combi with 16 programs put to timbre with all different ifx chain groups. They will end up automatically reconfigured in terms of ifx routing and the system will determine the best configuration.
I hope best configuration is not based on designer opinion encoded in algorithm form. But of course you can go in and work out a solution yourself, work out a compromise.

The solution with kronos IFX setup ,is more than 12 ifx slots open to chain link. Even 16 ifx slots will definitely open options up in a very noticeable way. I heard that 12 ifx slots with chain linking is actually up there in available features on any rig. A total of 16 FX are actually available and the 2 MFX can be used in a way that works just like ifx if you work the MFX send levels to bring them in and out on the tracks where they are needed and not needed.

It would be nice to have ifx 1 chained to ifx 4 while used in track one and then have the same ifx 1 chained to ifx 3 and ifx 8 in track 2 without ifx 4 in the track two group. creating ifx groups where the ifx in one group are independent of the ifx in another group even if one or more common ifx slots are being used in both groups.

Maybe i am getting your question wrong but this is all of what comes to mind from what i read. More IFX slots are needed. Maybe one day.

I am wondering if there is a device or software to work in external IFX into the mix, per track rather than overall TFX like at the main outputs or at the mixer.

psionic311 · Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Reverb/Efx + insert fx

pete.m · Senior Member Joined: 05 Apr 2013 Posts: 484

Remember also that, if you set up (say) reverb in one of MFX slots while you are in SEQ mode, you can vary the amount of reverb applied to individual tracks as the song progresses and record those movements as MIDI events. You can of course go back and edit those events later on, if need be. That makes the whole thing so much more flexible.

playboy354 · Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Posts: 43

Thank you all for your help. These are the answers I needed.
This forum is excellent for learning so glad I found.

Thought I never would learn Kronos when I bought it yet Im making tracks now.

psionic311 · Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:46 pm Post subject:

On the IFX 1-12 tab, in the upper right, is a blue square with "P", for Preset. There may already be some standard presets made by Korg there, but you can also roll your own and save them so they will show up here also.

To save your own IFX as a preset, click the drop down in the very upper right corner and choose Write FX Preset.

playboy354 · Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Posts: 43

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

When you route a timbre to an IFX, the MFX send for that timbre is moved to the IFX setup page. On the right hand side of the IFX slot, after the slot number, name and chain option.

Mike Conway · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:13 pm Post subject:

What Sander just said.

playboy354 · Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Posts: 43

Ok. I will go back and attempt this. Thanks again.