Toggle Karma via CC?

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WVought
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Toggle Karma via CC?

Post by WVought »

Is it possible to send a MIDI CC from a DAW (sequencer) to turn Karma on/off?

If so, how? On what page would I set this up?

I specifically want to be able to turn Karma off at a precise point.

I've searched the manuals, but have not found this info.

Thanks.
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Post by WVought »

I think I've since stumbled upon how to do this.

It's in Global/Controller & Scales/Controllers tab/MIDI CC Assign - KARMA Controllers.

I can choose a MIDI CC to turn KARMA on/off. However, the function appears to vary depending on the value assigned to the CC. Ex: If I assign CC#1 to turn KARMA on/off, the behavior will vary depending on the value I assign to CC#1.

A value of 0 (for example), turns KARMA off if it was on, but doesn't turn KARMA on if it was off.

A value of 100 (for example) turns KARMA on if it was off, but doesn't turn KARMA off if it was on.
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Post by 19naia »

Default CC# for Karma on/off switch is CC#14. Thats is what i looked up in the Parameter guide page 1125. There is a Chart for all the CC# and their function versus default control on Kronos.
Also the chart shows that Karma off is 0....63 and on is 64....127. Similar to pan settings.

If you are wanting to use DAW sequencer to send Karma on/off commands, then it seems you should send Midi CC#14. I am not sure where you would work out the 0....127 settings for the on or off sides of the range, but you already know what to look for in your DAW.

Parameter guide page 1138 give detailed description of what to do. It includes going to Global as you did and setting up functions in Controller page.
The CC# is 14 for karma on/off and thats what you set to Karma On/Off.

Parameter guide excerpt page 1138-1139
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KARMA function control
If you assign the following CC#s to the KARMA CONTROLS sliders and switches, the specified CC# will be transmitted when you operate the KRONOS, and the KRONOS itself will be controlled simultaneously. When these messages are received, the result will be the same as if you operated the KRONOS itself.
The CC# settings for each knob and switch are made in the Global P2– Controller page. Normally you will leave these Off. However, you can use these settings if you need to assign MIDI control change messages to these controllers, such as when you want to record the operations of the KARMA CONTROLS sliders and switches on the internal sequencer or an external MIDI sequencer, or to control KARMA from an external MIDI device.
Although you can select any MIDI control change CC#00– CC#119 for each slider and switch, you will normally use the default settings that are assigned when you execute the page menu command “Reset Controller MIDI Assign” with CC Default. For more information, see “Reset Controller MIDI Assign” on page 811.
The operations described below are for these CC Default settings. The messages will be transmitted when you operate the corresponding controller of the KRONOS. When these messages are received, the result will be the same as if you operated the controller on the KRONOS itself.
KARMA ON/OFF (CC#14) [Bn, 0E, vv]
This corresponds to the KARMA ON/OFF switch. It transmits vv=127 [F7] when turned on, or vv=127 [7F] when turned off.
KARMA Slider1 (CC#22) [Bn, 16, vv] KARMA Slider2 (CC#23) [Bn, 17, vv] KARMA Slider3 (CC#24) [Bn, 18, vv] KARMA Slider4 (CC#25) [Bn, 19, vv] KARMA Slider5 (CC#26) [Bn, 1A, vv] KARMA Slider6 (CC#27) [Bn, 1B, vv] KARMA Slider7 (CC#28) [Bn, 1C, vv] KARMA Slider8 (CC#29) [Bn, 1D, vv]
These correspond to KARMA CONTROLS sliders 1–8.
KARMA SCENE (CC#30) [Bn,m 1E, vv]
This corresponds to the KARMA SCENE switches. (vv” value; 00: Scene 1, 01: Scene 2, 02: Scene 3, 03: Scene 4, 04: Scene 5, 05: Scene 6, 06: Scene 7, 07: Scene 8, 08...7F: invalid)
KARMA LATCH (CC#31) [Bn, 1F, vv]
This corresponds to the KARMA LATCH switch. It transmits vv=127 [7F] when turned on, or vv=127 [7F] when turned off.
KARMA SW1 (CC#102) [Bn, 66, vv] KARMA SW2 (CC#103) [Bn, 67, vv] KARMA SW3 (CC#104) [Bn, 68, vv] KARMA SW4 (CC#105) [Bn, 69, vv] KARMA SW5 (CC#106) [Bn, 6A, vv] KARMA SW6 (CC#107) [Bn, 6B, vv] KARMA SW7 (CC#108) [Bn, 6C, vv] KARMA SW8 (CC#109) [Bn, 6D, vv]
This corresponds to the KARMA SWITCH 1–8. It transmits vv=127 [7F] when turned on, or vv=127 [7F] when turned off.
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Post by WVought »

Thank you for this excellent and detailed reply.

I'm currently working on a project in which I'm using CC#1 to toggle KARMA, and it seems to work just fine. But I'll switch to using CC#14 just in case.
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