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Liviou2004
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:02 am    Post subject: Effects Automation Reply with quote

Hello there,

Here is a very interisting tip which doesn't come from myself but from a french user, Coyote14.
(I don't know if there already a thread about that.)

Some effects have one parameter which can be modulated by a Dmod source. But the most effects parameters can't be modulated that way.

Suppose you want to modulate the Size pamameter in OVerb effect. You can't directly. But, you can do it manually inside a song : in Overdub record mode, you can record the change you are doing with the Value slider.

This opens a large field of possibilities.

Here is the Youtube tutorial. It's in french but you can add automatic translation. If you just want to see the Effects, go directly to 9:00.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQUYrrYm_Wk&t=609s
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a cool tip to keep in mind - in fact, you can automate just about any parameter in the sequencer that way. You can even dynamically change effect routings and slots.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely, yes.
You can even change Effects themselves ! So, even if there are "only" 16 usable effects at the same time, in fact during the entire song, we can have all the effects we want !!

I just have to try if it is possible to add effect-preset changes inside the song. I suppose yes.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try recording that to a clip, and then set to a pattern and RPPR.
you can thus program all crazy moves to different clips and trigger them from a note all in sync.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amit wrote:
Try recording that to a clip, and then set to a pattern and RPPR.
you can thus program all crazy moves to different clips and trigger them from a note all in sync.


Hello, please, what do you call a "clip" ? It's not a Kronos term. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clip I meant a small midi piece on a single track say 4 bars in the sequencer, then convert it to a rppr pattern.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AH yes, OK. Good idea indeed. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korg workstation sequencers allow the recording of sysex information (applying the values associated with the movement of knobs, faders, etc., to a track while recording, of course- including, yes, program and effect changes) to most parameters! Also, what many don't also realize is Korg workstation sequencers utilizing rppr can also record sysex information to the associated rppr keys desired!!


This is from another thread I contributed to (as follows):

"This is cmpletely off topic (but because the topic regards rppr), and few seem to mention (did you know that)- Korg's rppr can also record sysex information only (vs., for example, midi note information) to a note (or multiple notes). You can then affect other notes being played (the midi notes) with (the sysex rppr notes) and apply that sysex information TO the midi notes being played at the same time. I hope you can understand this and how powerful this feature of rppr is! I hope this is clear in what I'm trying to say!"

(In hindsight, I could've worded it for better clarity, but I suppose you can figure it out.)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somewhat related. This covers "Put FX to Track."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNnM4Ifx0qY
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Thanks Mike ! I have never used the "put effect to track" possibilities. Such a very interesting video ! Idea
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As there is no dedicated chapter in the Parameter's Guide about Kronos Sysex abilities, it's useful to debate about that.

Thank you Mike, you're right to remind us to your so useful videos, in particular when we know in advance what to do. Then, it's up to us to modify on the fly the internal effects parameters, if we want, and record it.

Once again, all that shows the incredible versatility of the Kronos.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

timbukktwo wrote:
Korg workstation sequencers allow the recording of sysex information (applying the values associated with the movement of knobs, faders, etc., to a track while recording, of course- including, yes, program and effect changes) to most parameters! Also, what many don't also realize is Korg workstation sequencers utilizing rppr can also record sysex information to the associated rppr keys desired!!


This is from another thread I contributed to (as follows):


Thank you. Could please add the link toward this thread ? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(That particular thread was 'RPPR Rules!!!')

Rppr discussions pop up every now and then, especially when trying to figure out a way to emulate the Yamaha Motif pattern sequencing feature. Rppr can be used in HUGELY creative ways! I love rppr!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit I didn't yet have a look at RPPR. But all you say about that makes me want to do it.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RPPR is a great tool, but very few exploit its true potential.
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