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Liviou2004 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 1150 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:02 am Post subject: Effects Automation |
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Hello there,
Here is a very interisting tip which doesn't come from myself but from a french user, Coyote14.
(I don't know if there already a thread about that.)
Some effects have one parameter which can be modulated by a Dmod source. But the most effects parameters can't be modulated that way.
Suppose you want to modulate the Size pamameter in OVerb effect. You can't directly. But, you can do it manually inside a song : in Overdub record mode, you can record the change you are doing with the Value slider.
This opens a large field of possibilities.
Here is the Youtube tutorial. It's in french but you can add automatic translation. If you just want to see the Effects, go directly to 9:00.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQUYrrYm_Wk&t=609s |
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SeedyLee Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1370 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:14 am Post subject: |
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It's a cool tip to keep in mind - in fact, you can automate just about any parameter in the sequencer that way. You can even dynamically change effect routings and slots. _________________ Current Equipment:
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Liviou2004 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 1150 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Absolutely, yes.
You can even change Effects themselves ! So, even if there are "only" 16 usable effects at the same time, in fact during the entire song, we can have all the effects we want !!
I just have to try if it is possible to add effect-preset changes inside the song. I suppose yes. |
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amit Approved Merchant
Joined: 13 Jul 2015 Posts: 825 Location: New Delhi, India
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Try recording that to a clip, and then set to a pattern and RPPR.
you can thus program all crazy moves to different clips and trigger them from a note all in sync. _________________ DX7-MOD-7 Patches | Korg Related Content
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Liviou2004 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 1150 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:51 am Post subject: |
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amit wrote: | Try recording that to a clip, and then set to a pattern and RPPR.
you can thus program all crazy moves to different clips and trigger them from a note all in sync. |
Hello, please, what do you call a "clip" ? It's not a Kronos term. Thanks. |
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amit Approved Merchant
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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clip I meant a small midi piece on a single track say 4 bars in the sequencer, then convert it to a rppr pattern. _________________ DX7-MOD-7 Patches | Korg Related Content
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Liviou2004 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 1150 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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AH yes, OK. Good idea indeed. Thanks. |
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timbukktwo Senior Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 287
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Korg workstation sequencers allow the recording of sysex information (applying the values associated with the movement of knobs, faders, etc., to a track while recording, of course- including, yes, program and effect changes) to most parameters! Also, what many don't also realize is Korg workstation sequencers utilizing rppr can also record sysex information to the associated rppr keys desired!!
This is from another thread I contributed to (as follows):
"This is cmpletely off topic (but because the topic regards rppr), and few seem to mention (did you know that)- Korg's rppr can also record sysex information only (vs., for example, midi note information) to a note (or multiple notes). You can then affect other notes being played (the midi notes) with (the sysex rppr notes) and apply that sysex information TO the midi notes being played at the same time. I hope you can understand this and how powerful this feature of rppr is! I hope this is clear in what I'm trying to say!"
(In hindsight, I could've worded it for better clarity, but I suppose you can figure it out.) |
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Mike Conway Approved Merchant
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2433 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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kronoSphere Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Big Thanks Mike ! I have never used the "put effect to track" possibilities. Such a very interesting video ! _________________ trees are going fast.
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Liviou2004 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 1150 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:41 am Post subject: |
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As there is no dedicated chapter in the Parameter's Guide about Kronos Sysex abilities, it's useful to debate about that.
Thank you Mike, you're right to remind us to your so useful videos, in particular when we know in advance what to do. Then, it's up to us to modify on the fly the internal effects parameters, if we want, and record it.
Once again, all that shows the incredible versatility of the Kronos. |
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Liviou2004 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 1150 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:43 am Post subject: |
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timbukktwo wrote: | Korg workstation sequencers allow the recording of sysex information (applying the values associated with the movement of knobs, faders, etc., to a track while recording, of course- including, yes, program and effect changes) to most parameters! Also, what many don't also realize is Korg workstation sequencers utilizing rppr can also record sysex information to the associated rppr keys desired!!
This is from another thread I contributed to (as follows): |
Thank you. Could please add the link toward this thread ? Thanks. |
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timbukktwo Senior Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:54 am Post subject: |
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(That particular thread was 'RPPR Rules!!!')
Rppr discussions pop up every now and then, especially when trying to figure out a way to emulate the Yamaha Motif pattern sequencing feature. Rppr can be used in HUGELY creative ways! I love rppr! |
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Liviou2004 Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:34 am Post subject: |
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I must admit I didn't yet have a look at RPPR. But all you say about that makes me want to do it. |
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amit Approved Merchant
Joined: 13 Jul 2015 Posts: 825 Location: New Delhi, India
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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RPPR is a great tool, but very few exploit its true potential. _________________ DX7-MOD-7 Patches | Korg Related Content
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