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ShoNuff
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah DW or EX - but 4 note poly minimum,
with patch memories and programmable from software
if need be.

a sampler that samples and gives chromatic play and keygroups,
with a drag+drop editor (all one one midi channel this time...)

must receive velocity...

string machine...

a better monosynth...
(i would really like to know some mods for the Bass, too much
missing from it, might have to move it on)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShoNuff wrote:
yeah DW or EX - but 4 note poly minimum,
with patch memories and programmable from software
if need be.

a sampler that samples and gives chromatic play and keygroups,
with a drag+drop editor (all one one midi channel this time...)

must receive velocity...

string machine...

a better monosynth...
(i would really like to know some mods for the Bass, too much
missing from it, might have to move it on)


String machines are getting focused on lately so yeah, a Korg Volca Ensemble would be great.
Your sampler ideas sound like a real sampler and I don't think they will release something that will slow sales of the Electribe 2s.
Same with the monosynth ideas. I highly doubt Korg will jeopardise Monologue sales by releasing a full function Volca Mono.

pmboos wrote:
My top thoughts of what I'd like to see is (in order of preference as of right now):

Vocoder
Chiptune Synth
Wavetable Synth (or even just a DW type synth)


Vocoder again is a product they are selling a real version of.
Chiptune synth is missing from the Korg lineup in any physical form factor (dunno about gadget) and is always fun.

I'd like to point out that the DW/EX wasn't a wavetable synth, it was a wavelookup synth. You couldn't sweep the list of waves like a real wavetable. Really it was really one of the first romplers.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding vocoders, I'm still waiting and hoping for return of something like Korg's own VC10, but obviously as a small keyboard and not a volca. But vocoder in volca form would still be possible: a small box with carrier and modulator inputs played via midi. Overall while volcas being cool little devices, personally for me the biggest difficulty using any of them is having so many important functions under this dreadful touchpad. I have kept my units only because of their analog characterful sound.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkside wrote:
Regarding vocoders, I'm still waiting and hoping for return of something like Korg's own VC10, but obviously as a small keyboard and not a volca. But vocoder in volca form would still be possible: a small box with carrier and modulator inputs played via midi. Overall while volcas being cool little devices, personally for me the biggest difficulty using any of them is having so many important functions under this dreadful touchpad. I have kept my units only because of their analog characterful sound.


I'd like to see a proper vocoder with the band controls like the EMS Vocoder 3000.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

going to say it again...

a proper sampler, it would be a big hit.
record audio, assign keyrange, start/stop points, a loop section,
envelope, all on one midi channel, basic filter, (realtime timestretch?)
and memory on SD card, minimal display - a little soundgrabber
that creates material that can be used later on other devices,
or just as is.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShoNuff wrote:
going to say it again...

a proper sampler, it would be a big hit.
record audio, assign keyrange, start/stop points, a loop section,
envelope, all on one midi channel, basic filter, (realtime timestretch?)
and memory on SD card, minimal display - a little soundgrabber
that creates material that can be used later on other devices,
or just as is.


Saying again doesn't change the fact that if you want a proper sampler, your not going to get one for 150 bux. Not from anyone. Be realistic, Korg are selling a performance sampler in the Electribe 2s. They are going to say the same thing as me: Buy the Electribe 2s if you want a real sampler. It's exactly what you have described you want in a Volca Sample mkii.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't see why it's such a difficult thing: record audio,
play it back pitched. it's old technology easily done with
modern cpus and memory. the same technology is to
some degree implemented in loads of devices.

i don't get it. look what you get in a phone.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, so the electribe2s is the product they want you to buy.
but does it do this? isn't it a one-shot sampler?

these things are relatively big...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samples as oscillators requires looping, so no, it's not a one-shot. Yes it's larger than a Volca, but not much. Size trade-off is you get pads making it more of an instrument than a playback machine. It has realtime sampling and resampling too. MIDI out too.

Sampling specs:

Korg site specs wrote:
Sampler

User Samples: Up to 499 samples

Memory: Total maximum approximately 270 seconds (calculated as monaural)

* Regardless of the capacity of the SD card
* Including presets

Edits: Start/End Point, Loop Start Point, Tune, Time Slice, Level, Direction, Resampling


Read up on how flexible for a groove station sampler the Electribe 2s is:

http://cdn.korg.com/us/support/download/files/0b4a3c5f3361280358cd6c9c7f9e8b6f.pdf
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, i must read that. thanks. downloading.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quick skim before start of day.
yeah that's really interesting. i'll read deeper later,
re features. haha see if i can identify anything to
moan about Smile

but that could justify thinking about one.
i have a es1 and a Sample, there's a lot of
crossover there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShoNuff wrote:
quick skim before start of day.
yeah that's really interesting. i'll read deeper later,
re features. haha see if i can identify anything to
moan about Smile

but that could justify thinking about one.
i have a es1 and a Sample, there's a lot of
crossover there.


I tried to reply to this, but then the forum crashed mid composition and I lost all my words.

If you have an ES1, isn't it time to update? Everything I've read about the Electribe 2s is that it slays it's old siblings. And as far as it vs a VSample, I think we know which is the better machine for every job the VSample can perform....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seeing a vid of the 2S, it does look interesting.

i can't really decide with es1 and vSample yet whether
to unload one of them. i've been very impressed with the
es1 but haven't had a chance to use it much yet. it seems
such a keeper. and the vSample is a lot of fun too.

i'm not going to make any decision on that yet, not in a
hurry or anything. the possibilities with just a Sample and
a FM are interesting. 2 FMs would be good, and i'm looking
sideways at Bass and Keys as a result, as they look limited
by comparison, and i have other options for those. a little
jamrig with 2 FMs is a compelling idea. but then again, FM
has its limits.

(so i knock Bass, and suddenly have a great house chord
on it ... it isn't a big deal whether i keep or not, as i got
them all 2nd hand)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:44 pm    Post subject: Volca Strings! Reply with quote

I'd personally like a “Volca Strings”. Something that could either do an analog approximation of a classic 70s string synth (Arp Solina, Elka Rhapsody) or a digital emulation of one like the Waldorf Streichfett (which sounds great in the Youtube videos I’ve seen).

Better yet, since Korg is already in the habit of licensing Arp’s name and circuitry they could base it on the Solina and call it the “Volca Solina”. That would be great but what I’d really love is to have it based on the less heralded Arp Omni and call it the “Volca Omni”. The marketing would be simple “A Joy Division Synth for the Masses”.

The Streichfett sells for over $350 so a Volca version would have a clear competitive advantage in terms of price.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

megamarkd wrote:
ShoNuff wrote:
quick skim before start of day.
yeah that's really interesting. i'll read deeper later,
re features. haha see if i can identify anything to
moan about Smile

but that could justify thinking about one.
i have a es1 and a Sample, there's a lot of
crossover there.


I tried to reply to this, but then the forum crashed mid composition and I lost all my words.

If you have an ES1, isn't it time to update? Everything I've read about the Electribe 2s is that it slays it's old siblings. And as far as it vs a VSample, I think we know which is the better machine for every job the VSample can perform....


ok so i was having related thoughts, having encountered ES1 again
-following sale of ER1 because too similar and a distraction- and
missing the parameter controls you get on the Sample ... and once
again ended up with this thought:
"volca sample...wail...why?!" Smile

why (did) not make mini pseudo akai sampler with SD slot and
wav ?! (wail...) that would be a fun product. small, volca format.

re: previous conversation about this, i don't really see the problem
in having a device that records audio to wav or whatever compressed
format they want to use, to create files. the miniKO2 kaossilator
stores wav files of every loop you do automatically. you can then
call them up again within the same session.
(there's no midi though). and there are plenty of miniature devices
now that are capable of playing what are essentially soundfonts.
being a volca, it could even have auxiliary output/s: some points on
the pcb.

did think about your electribe2s suggestion. needs looking into, if it's
in the philosophy of electribes. wasn't drawn to the bigger esx models,
and i don't have any particular attachment to an 'electribe sound', if
the new one is at all different;

just saying that, as a volca, a 'proper' sampler would be brilliant. to
have that cumbersome concept eg: rack sampler, 45cm, 3U, heavy,
with proprietary data format, etc. in a mini format with similar capabilities
would be haha real progress.
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