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Asena · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:49 pm Post subject:

I dont undarstand WHY THE Heck, 2.0 is working with the set file but the same set on 3.01 does not!
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D575 · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:52 pm Post subject:

worth · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1097

I don’t understand yours or anyone’s complaint . If version 2.0 works well and is stable , and you presumably were happy with what you had then , go back to that OS and be content again . It is as simple as that .

Forget you were ever given a free upgrade or whatever you believed you had paid for .

How is that not simple logic ?

D575 · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:35 pm Post subject:

Quite right Worth... then perhaps korg (according to Anthony) should find another source of beta tester instead of there uninformed customer base who are no better (in this case OS V3) than laboratory rats for there new up-and-coming keyboard and operating system... I believe that beta testing should be done by willing parties and also done behind closed doors...why upset everybody and bring themselves unnecessary bad feeling and bad press by covertly using us the customers to solve their problems if this insight is to be true?? ... if this is KORGS logic??... NOT a wise or pragmatic move or sound business sense at all... "what you say to that Mr Spock".... this is clearly going know where fast... OVER AND OUT FROM ME.
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worth · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1097

I don’t think Anthony is right but he has a right to his opinion . I think korg tried to do a good thing and provide an even more advanced product than they had already released and I think they are just as surprised and upset that there were undiscovered bugs in the release .

No company deliberately sets out to embarrass itself and harm its reputation by putting out a product knowing it was not ready especially for free .

Where is the win for them ?

But what is even more surprising is the reaction to their good will in providing this upgrade and discovering it is not quite ready and folks being upset that they may be “forced “ to continue to use the keyboard they had bought before until the new OS is ready .

It’s like someone offering you a potentially faster better car without you either asking for it or paying for it when they are not obliged to do so but discovering that sometimes it stalls . So they agree to try and fix it but in the mean time you have to continue to use your existing car that you already own and runs fine until the new one is ready . But instead of being grateful , you stamp your feet and roll on the ground like a baby because you can’t have it now !

Have I stepped into the twilight zone ? What the hell is going on ? have folks lost their rational minds ?

korg1 · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:28 pm Post subject:

In my point of view :

i already had Pa800 which i bought second hand under 1000 and still was sounding a lot better even than a successor model like pa3x was.

So,when i bought pa4x of course i would expect more than my pa800or pa3x,didn't think for so far after5 years,but i would expect it's sounds to be realistic as tyros5 are ,and that's something that happened when v3 came out,not even 2.2

But most important,when i bought it,i was expecting it to work without freezes....and guess what...it didn't!!!!!
So don't tell me what i was expected from pa4x or not.
It should be working fine out of the box,no matter what...i didn't get it for free

When you bought your Ford,i guess it was working back then,right ?
Just think if when you first bought it,it wouldn't work.....and you would have to wait 2-3years to work with it,not just to take it out for a small ride.....
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AntonySharmman · Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:28 pm Post subject:

worth · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1097

[quote="korg1"]In my point of view :

i already had Pa800 which i bought second hand under 1000 and still was sounding a lot better even than a successor model like pa3x was.

So,when i bought pa4x of course i would expect more than my pa800or pa3x,didn't think for so far after5 years,but i would expect it's sounds to be realistic as tyros5 are ,and that's something that happened when v3 came out,not even 2.2

But most important,when i bought it,i was expecting it to work without freezes....and guess what...it didn't!!!!!
So don't tell me what i was expected from pa4x or not.
It should be working fine out of the box,no matter what...i didn't get it for free

When you bought your Ford,i guess it was working back then,right ?
Just think if when you first bought it,it wouldn't work.....and you would have to wait 2-3years to work with it,not just to take it out for a small ride.....[/quote]

Are you trying to tell me when bought the keyboard it was not functioning according to your needs and you held onto it for years and complained and bellyached about it but kept it any way? Why ?

Most people would either return it Or sell it . What is the point in keeping a very expensive instrument as furniture if it doesnt work for your needs ?

My ford is still available for sale my friend and it drives ....just buy it and keep it for three years and there will be an upgrade ....just for you it’s £40000 . It’s a bargain as at least you can use it till the upgrade 👍

Genuinely this sounds insane .

worth · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1097

Double post

korg1 · Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:43 am Post subject:

Nothing had to do with my needs...the keyboard since ver1 just didn't work fine, and for me, freezes themselves were a big issue already and the main reason the keyboard stayed at home for almost a year.

You just don't sell it if you have already sold your previous car,and if the company promise it will be fixed soon.

Many cars come with problems,which are replaced for free of course with company's cost,nobody sells them at once,cause this way they will lose 50% of it's price.

That's common sense ....for those who have one

P.S Just for the record: with 50.000 you can buy a Mercedes 500 or a Porsche,why the hell someone would buy that crap car of yours?
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kleant · Full Member Joined: 10 May 2013 Posts: 106

I have tried the new update of next os 3.1 and taken the risk and gigged with it for a week. Some task take more time to load especially when loading a set and in generally everything seems more slow than the previous next os releases. Since update I have not yet had a restart or shutdown or a freeze but this does not mean that other users experiencing it are wrong and the problem has definitely been fixed.

I have tested the pad synch and at first everything seems fine but when using multiple pads and switch on and off fast out of synch somehow again they lost the synch. However since the first next os release 3.0and3.01 this problem has been minimised at the most but not yet completely gone at least from my opinion at this early observation of next os update 3.1.

Now I don't blame korg for the restart issues since can be a million reasons on the next OS than can cause it but I'm worried and somehow disappointed about the pad synch at least I think it should not have been a problem in the first place since the first release of the next os and still not completely fixed.

Please keep the problems or bugs whatever you call them reporting and hopefully sometime in the future Korg can identify and fix them. I have mentioned on a post before that all we can do its by reporting any problems and taking a step back by giving misleading advice especially regarding the Next OS.

At the current rate I don't think it's manageable for Korg to release updates every months and hopefully I'm wrong but I think will be a long time since another update will be released so now let's just enjoy the keyboard and try this 3.1 update until a new one comes.

pawlikp100 · Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:16 am Post subject:

Last time I played my korg pa4x Musikant for over 4 hours (OS version v3.1) without unexpected restart:)
But I found that one styl with Dynamix drums mapped doesn't play all drum sounds.
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worth · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1097

[quote="korg1"]Nothing had to do with my needs...the keyboard since ver1 just didn't work fine, and for me, freezes themselves were a big issue already and the main reason the keyboard stayed at home for almost a year.

You just don't sell it if you have already sold your previous car,and if the company promise it will be fixed soon.

Many cars come with problems,which are replaced for free of course with company's cost,nobody sells them at once,cause this way they will lose 50% of it's price.

That's common sense ....for those who have one

P.S Just for the record: with 50.000 you can buy a Mercedes 500 or a Porsche,why the hell someone would buy that crap car of yours?[/quote]

Apparently for the same reason someone bought that crap useless keyboard of yours that got stored away for years because it didn’t work properly .....ok I’ll let you have it for £30000 but I can’t go any lower ....what do you say ???

korg1 · Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:43 pm Post subject:

the keyboard works fine,what doesn't work fine is it's Os.
I bought pa4x brand new pal.

Ive seen a lot of dumpass ,but you know how to make the difference,welldone Worth !!!!
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Biggles · Platinum Member Joined: 31 Aug 2017 Posts: 1011

Korg can only fix the problem if each of you who suffer the big freeze reports it.

To try to replicate the fault Korg will probably need to know precisely what you were playing or what buttons you pressed which lead to the freeze.

To try to help out I have posted the problem on the Facebook PA Groups where I know Korg Staff frequent.

Keeping fingers crossed for an early fix for you 4X owners.

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