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Yamaha Genos is trying to catch competition; Korg pa4x (which is much older) implementing feautures which are known Korg users since 2011.
Nevertheless this is great news for Korg users. Who knows, maybe Korg will do next step in improving Korg pa4x _________________ Korg pa5x vs Genos 2 - spec comparison
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:00 pm Post subject: Genos Update
Biggles wrote:
It still does not impress me .... I would make a tin whistle.
These kind of comments are without content of any information - therefore worthless.
A serious test would compare the pros and cons of great keyboards and that would be more useful as a gratuitous cheap showmanship. _________________ kind regards
- siebenhirter, austria -
Interesting facts about styles and stylePlayer functions can be found at http: www.elmarherz.de
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Genos Update
siebenhirter wrote:
Biggles wrote:
It still does not impress me .... I would make a tin whistle.
These kind of comments are without content of any information - therefore worthless.
A serious test would compare the pros and cons of great keyboards and that would be more useful as a gratuitous cheap showmanship.
Who cares.
No need for Pros and Cons, being made by Yamaha is sufficient to dismiss it from being bought by my hard earned cash.
What it dies show is that Yamaha have followed Korg’s lead in designing a keyboard with limited capabilities in its initial guise but more features are unlocked in subsequent OS uodates. _________________ Biggles
Lancashire, UK
Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 2539 Location: Netherlands
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:48 pm Post subject:
I have them both (the Korg Pa4x and the Yamaha Genos).
It's easy to compare them, they are taking a quite different approach. Some things are better on the pa4x and some things are better on the Genos.
Sound wise there isn't much difference one you modify the sounds on both machines. I did the same song on both machines, i will post it here below to let you hear the differences. Of course the styles are different but you can compare the sound that way, since it's my own sound interpretation of the same song where i use the possibilities of the keyboards.
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Genos Update
Biggles wrote:
.. No need for Pros and Cons .... Yamaha have followed Korg’s lead in designing ....
That's a question of faith and does not care what producers did and how the did. It is crucial to get good products as is the case - as QuiRobinez shows with his sound examples! _________________ kind regards
- siebenhirter, austria -
Interesting facts about styles and stylePlayer functions can be found at http: www.elmarherz.de
Very useful and clearly demonstrates that the sound from the Kog in this case is far more pleasing to these old ears than that produced by yourself on the Genos.
The Genos seems a very capable keyboard and at thevend of the day it is what works for you that matters.
It is subjective, I dislike Yamaha simply because I find the sounds they produce shrill and grating to my ears, coupled with non user friendly menu system and up until the Genos and SX series the build materials used look more like a child's keyboard from the eighties. _________________ Biggles
Lancashire, UK
Pete _________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:19 am Post subject:
karmathanever wrote:
So what is special about Genos V2 please?
Pete
it's a big step for yamaha, it adds tons of features for free (which we are used to in korg gear, but for yamaha this is quite new).
There are a lot of features but the most important ones are:
- 50 new styles
- 68 new voices
- Expansion memory expanded to 3 gigabytes
- Chord looper with 8 chord slots per song (which makes pattern based looping possible)
- Style creator improvements (which is a very usable feature to easely modify existing styles to new ones, it's simpler to use then on a pa4x)
- Number of User effects expanded
- Further integration with the ipad (like for instance analyse any audio song and transfer the chords to the corresponding 8 slots in the chord looper) , the connection on the genos with the ipad is wireless by the way (audio and midi)
- things like extra portamento features and style reset, extra external control settings to assign to your external midi controllers
It probably depends on what users consider special and what features they want and need to be added at the keyboard.
If anyone has any further interest, Yamaha's update info is to find here:
It amazes me that no matter what keyboard forum I visit mature adults have to have a pissing contest that my arranger is better than yours!
I own a Genos and a Pa4x. My comment is some days and gigs I like the Genos other days and gigs it’s the Pa4x, they are both outstanding in their own way. _________________ Pa4x-76, Yamaha CVP307, Genos, Yamaha sx900, Bose Compact, Maui LD5
It amazes me that no matter what keyboard forum I visit mature adults have to have a pissing contest that my arranger is better than yours!
They're just expressing views... it's what the forum is for _________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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