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robthemuso Senior Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:38 pm Post subject: Vocal hamony. And mp3,s |
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Hi
When I sing and play along to an mp3 I cannot get the vocal harmony to recognize and play with my left hand chords. Is this normal or is there something I can do. _________________ PA1xpro/Korg O1w fd/pa4x76 Roland rd800 pk5 bass pedals and numerous useless amps mixers and othe bits of junk from the past |
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duby2 Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2002 Posts: 1379 Location: USA Pennsylvania
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:17 pm Post subject: ok |
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I use the harmony ,,, call notes .. this can read your left hand ,, just set it up right ,,, in my down load . it is set up and it is call MP3 harmonony...
you do need to know the chords ... |
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Korghelper Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:39 am Post subject: |
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It would be great if the next PA series arranger could play an MP3/WAV and a sequence at the same time.
This would allow you to create a sequence in sync with the mp3/wav with just the harmony notes on it (or extra stuff like sounds or effects control).
Yamaha have a system for the SX900/Genos where an iPad app analyses an audio file and creates a chord sequence for it which can then be imported to the arranger's Chord Looper. Something along these lines could be imported into the next PA's sequencer or the Chord Looper to give players with less experienced ears the data they need for the harmonizer... |
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mabcomp Senior Member
Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Posts: 384 Location: GB
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: ok |
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duby2 wrote: | I use the harmony ,,, call notes .. this can read your left hand ,, just set it up right ,,, in my down load . it is set up and it is call MP3 harmonony...
you do need to know the chords ... |
I haven't quite grasped the procedure here can you explain in more detail please? _________________ Pro Singer/Musician for over 30 Years |
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kbrkr Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 804 Location: Savannah, Georgia USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:39 am Post subject: |
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From my understanding, the Pa3x can use vocal harmony with MP3, but Korg killed the feature with the 4x. Why oh why? _________________ Pa5x, Yamaha Genos, ForeScore |
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Snoopy Full Member
Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Posts: 225 Location: North-West Germany, Eastfrisia ;)
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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kbrkr wrote: | ...but Korg killed the feature with the 4x. Why oh why? |
No license from TC ( or : license too expensive )... _________________ Greetings from East-Frisia, Germany
PA4X MUSIKANT, OS 3.1.0, PKG-Version |
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duby2 Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2002 Posts: 1379 Location: USA Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:46 pm Post subject: boo |
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yes the pa3x did harmony with mp3 and you could pick ..
one to four voices ..
and i was unhappy korg remover it ... |
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Bill1983 Junior Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Korghelper wrote: | It would be great if the next PA series arranger could play an MP3/WAV and a sequence at the same time.
This would allow you to create a sequence in sync with the mp3/wav with just the harmony notes on it (or extra stuff like sounds or effects control).
Yamaha have a system for the SX900/Genos where an iPad app analyses an audio file and creates a chord sequence for it which can then be imported to the arranger's Chord Looper. Something along these lines could be imported into the next PA's sequencer or the Chord Looper to give players with less experienced ears the data they need for the harmonizer... |
I have no idea how you could properly sync the two. The sequence will have a midi time code and/or midi clock but the mp3/wav will not unless it's hidden somewhere that I'm totally unaware of. _________________ PA4x, PA500, NI Komplete Kontrol S88 MK2, Sonar Platinum, Ableton Live 10 Standard, NI Komplete12 Ultimate, EWQL Libraries, Nektar Impact LX88, Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 Gen2, Studiologic MP-117 Pedalboard |
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robthemuso Senior Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 352 Location: Birmingham UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Hi
I am still having trouble with this issue so trying again for a solution.
I have recorded an mp3 backing track and saved it to h.d. Now I want to record the vocals. It's easy enough to sing and record at the same time but I cannot get the vocal harmony to respond to the chords I'm playing with my left hand. Can I point out that I am not trying to sync a style with the mp3 and I have reduced the left hand volume to 0 so the left hand is just keying the notes for the v.h. to recognise. This worked ok with my old pa1x but doesn't't work with my 4x. Any help please.
Rob _________________ PA1xpro/Korg O1w fd/pa4x76 Roland rd800 pk5 bass pedals and numerous useless amps mixers and othe bits of junk from the past |
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Ron Full Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Rob,
Not what you want to hear but in an effort to help you, I tried overdubbing an MP3 on my PA but I cannot get the harmony to work either. Funny that the voice double seems to work … but not the harmonizer.
For what it's worth, the manual says we should not overdub MP3's anyway. Something about re-compressed files losing quality.
Stay well - don't be exposing yourself!
Ron _________________ Pa4X, KronosX, BIAB, Cakewalk |
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DonM Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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If I remember correctly, the style or a midi file must be running in order for the vh to work.
Not so with the doubler. _________________ DonM |
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400nvd Junior Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 56 Location: Groningen and Alicante
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Vocal hamony. And mp3,s |
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robthemuso wrote: | Hi
When I sing and play along to an mp3 I cannot get the vocal harmony to recognize and play with my left hand chords. Is this normal or is there something I can do. |
You have to select "Chord Scan" as "Song Play control" in the harmony window.
see page 552 of latest manual.
So whenever you need harmonies or hardtune with an MP3, you need to play the chords (with or without sounds) _________________ Noël
Nord Stage 3, Korg PA4x,
HK Elements, HK Nano iPad pro |
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Korghelper Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 584
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Bill1983 wrote: | Korghelper wrote: | It would be great if the next PA series arranger could play an MP3/WAV and a sequence at the same time.
This would allow you to create a sequence in sync with the mp3/wav with just the harmony notes on it (or extra stuff like sounds or effects control).
Yamaha have a system for the SX900/Genos where an iPad app analyses an audio file and creates a chord sequence for it which can then be imported to the arranger's Chord Looper. Something along these lines could be imported into the next PA's sequencer or the Chord Looper to give players with less experienced ears the data they need for the harmonizer... |
I have no idea how you could properly sync the two. The sequence will have a midi time code and/or midi clock but the mp3/wav will not unless it's hidden somewhere that I'm totally unaware of. |
If all one is doing is playing the mp3 and then recording the input chords for triggering the VH, I don't think it matters that clocks are synchronized. As long as they both start at the beginning at the same time, I doubt they would drift apart enough to make a difference over the length of a song. |
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