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Mezzopiano Junior Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2015 Posts: 56
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:41 pm Post subject: More than 4 karma scenes as switches |
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Hi
I am now somewhat familiar with the ability to use Karma scenes switches to change between sounds inside a combi. using each of the 4 karma modules to mute and unmute parts associated with specific midi channels
My question is, is it posible to use the other 4 karma switches (5 to to keep changing sounds?
I am asking this because there is a patch in the NARFSounds collection (Toto - Rosanna) that uses up to 5 karma scenes, all this time i though you could use only 4
I am dissecting that combi but i dont understand how this is accomplished |
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timg11 Senior Member
Joined: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 459
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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@Mezzopiano, you are confusing Karma Scenes with Karma Modules.
Karma Modules are behind the mute-unmute capability. There are 4 Karma Modules, as seen by the A, B, C, D in many of the Karma screens.
There are 8 Karma Scenes, with 8 switches. The mapping between Scenes and Modules can be seen in the Karma tab "GE RTP Scenes".
Note that some of the necessity for using Karma for voice mute/unmute control was fixed with the introduction of Live Mode (global settings). Live mode makes the Mix Play Mute switches in the Timbre/Track control surface mode control MIDI rather than Audio. In some cases this addresses the needs for mute unmute in a combi.
Two significant cases where Timbre/Track control is not helpful are:
1) If you want mute unmute multiple timbres with a single button press. A single scene can control the mute of 4 timbres. In Timbre/Track mode, you must separately push a button for each timbre mute change. With Karma Scenes, they can all (up to 4) be changed with one press of a Karma Scene.
2) If you want to use realtime controls (RT) for filter and EG on the knobs, while controlling Timbre volume and mute live, you simply can not. RT knobs is only in RT/Karma mode. When the control surface is in Timbre/Track mode, the knobs are fixed to the Pan/EQ functions. IMHO these are much less useful for live performance. The RT knobs are very useful for live, but if you select RT, you lose Timbre volume and mute (except with the Karma trick limited to 4 Timbres). _________________ Kronos2 73, Presonus StudioLive, Cakewalk / Sonar Platinum, Windows 10 |
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timg11 Senior Member
Joined: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 459
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: More than 4 karma scenes as switches |
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Mezzopiano wrote: | Hi
My question is, is it posible to use the other 4 karma switches (5 to to keep changing sounds?
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The answer to that question is Yes. You could set up your Karma Scenes like this:
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Scene Timbre1 Timbre2 Timbre3 Timbre4
1 X
2 X
3 X
4 X
5 X X
6 X X
7 X X
8 X X X X
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So you can set up various combinations of the 4 Timbres in Scenes, and select them with a single Scene button press in RT/Karma mode. _________________ Kronos2 73, Presonus StudioLive, Cakewalk / Sonar Platinum, Windows 10 |
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toeti
Joined: 18 Sep 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Herdecke
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