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yeskeys · Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:34 pm Post subject: Learning MS20 engine...

Good tutorial on the MS20 engine? The best I've found so far is Q. Robinez video, are there any other resources. I had no problems getting around on my eurorack system (I had 4 rows of 104hp, but you lost a lot of command switching screens and acclimating to the Korg paradigm. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
THanks!
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KK · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1422

One good way is to learn the original one. Google "MS-20 patch book" to get many visual examples of programs (knob positions, patch cords, etc.).

yeskeys · Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:30 pm Post subject:

Thanks KK. Great idea. My first synth was the MS10, back in the day. My university had an OB 8 voice, even though I had multi-tracked some demos with the MS10, the faculty member in charge didn't let me take the synth courses (lab aceess) because I wasn't a music major.
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KK · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1422

You're welcome. Below is the link I was referring to. It's an easy and quick start as very "visual", if you don't feel like learning all the knobs and patch panel right away. But in the end, the MS-20 basics are similar to working on a Moog or any other synth (VCO, VCF, VCA, modulation, envelopes, etc.).

http://korguk.com/downloads/korg/ms20mini/MS20-PatchBook.pdf

Liviou2004 · Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:26 am Post subject:

Charles did a some good tutos upon MS-20 EX :
https://www.youtube.com/c/CharlesFerraro/search?query=MS20[/url]

yeskeys · Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:31 pm Post subject:

I think I need a good cheat sheet(s) so I can learn what what parameters map from the primary graphics page to the other tabs. It should be easier to figure out what maps to what across the pages.

Related - If I have a Program, comprised of 2 MS20s, can I patch between the two EXis, making a more powerful MS20?

I also plan on getting the Behringer 2600 when it comes out - does anyone know if there is enough voltage presentable at the individual 4 outputs on the Kronos to feed a meaningful voltage into the 2600 to do stuff like open filters, change EG stage amounts, etc?

Thanks
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Liviou2004 · Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:09 am Post subject:

yeskeys · Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:16 pm Post subject:

Boy those Charles Ferraro tutorials are just what the dr. ordered! Well done and explained. Thank you all for the tips, I wish I could spend all day working to master these engines. The sequencer also baffles me to the point that I'm not sure if it's me or my Kronos acting up when it doesn't perform steps I expect it to do.

That's for another day however. I have real work to do this week, so I can pay for my toys.

Thank you good people,
Eric
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blazerunner · Senior Member Joined: 15 Nov 2017 Posts: 277

I had been looking for something like this too. I find it astounding that as complex as the Kronos is to learn with all its features that Korg has never taken it upon themselves to develop a "proper" tutorial series on how to use the Kronos. Often I find many people like myself getting frustrated trying to find whatever resources they can to learn the ins and outs of it.

I never find it surprising when there are features on the Kronos people don't know about or just skip altogether because they never had the patience to learn it. Also the manual my first go to is of little help at times it doesn't address nor answer every question so there's that too.

Liviou2004 · Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:45 am Post subject:

blazerunner · Senior Member Joined: 15 Nov 2017 Posts: 277

Liviou2004 · Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:52 am Post subject:

tunaman · Senior Member Joined: 28 Nov 2019 Posts: 427

That’s really the point, isn’t it Liviou? The Kronos can be as simple or complex as the user wants or needs - many never dig in to the manuals and just use the basics to create music, while others dig in as deep in the areas that interest or service them as they can.

The beauty of the Kronos is that it IS as deep as it is, and that is nearly limitless in spite of its age - there really are few (if any) alternatives developed in the intervening years which can match the capabilities.

However, it apparently isn’t for everyone, and that’s OK. There are plenty of other simpler alternatives to choose from.

Liviou2004 · Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:28 pm Post subject:

Lightbringer · Senior Member Joined: 07 Jan 2018 Posts: 356 Location: USA

I’m kind of surprised to hear the MS-20EX is challenging to learn for someone who owns an MS-20. I know it has some added functionality with AMS but the basic operation is the same isn’t it?

Just curious what’s giving you the most trouble...