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wocongming
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 Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:43 pm Post subject: Korg Kronos 88 LS???? |
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| Guys. i already have 2 Kronos 88. but am looking in to buying the LS 88 cause of it being so much lighter. Cant find it ANYWHERE in my local stores so i can try it to make sure i like the light action on it. Can anyone here who has played one tell me if its a springy action , like an organ, where when you hold a note down it feels like it wants to spring up? or if it has like a soft bottom action llike the old Triton Pro where when you hold it down, it doesnt want to fight to go back up? anyone? thanx |
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danmusician
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The LS weighs in at 39.2 Pounds. The Kronos 88 is 53.13. That's only a 14 pound difference. To my back, that doesn't qualify as "so much lighter." A couple of years ago, I ordered an LS and had it at home trial. I returned it. I just couldn't adjust to the non-weighted touch without significant effort. That's a weakness in my technique, not the instrument.
For me, if I'm going to deal with the size and weight of the LS, the K2-88 isn't that much heavier. I'd rather have the weighted action for a few more pounds.
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GregC
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I don't gig, but if I had to, I would hire 2 roadies.
Sure, everyone wants to keep every $ from low pay gigs.
Thats what old age does, i don't care about spending $50-$100 on roadies in order to stay comfortable.
But really, there are no gigs here in CA, for over a year. The venues are quiet.
I can't speak for other states. Just the same I haven't noticed anyone bragging about near future gigs, not yet anyway.
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danmusician
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| GregC wrote: | | I can't speak for other states. Just the same I haven't noticed anyone bragging about near future gigs, not yet anyway. |
I don't gig in the traditional sense. I'm a Christian musician playing mainly in churches, camps, retreats, etc. I do solo, one-man-band type gigs. My specialty is smaller venues that can't afford or aren't interested in booking a full band. Here on the east coast, things are slowly beginning to open back up. We're a long way from normal.
I remain very cautious, social distancing, masking and hand washing/sanitizing. I prefer to handle my own equipment. Even under "normal" circumstances, hiring a roadie isn't practical. I'm good with that, but I do try to keep my rig as simple as possible.
The last 2 Sundays, I've had my first gigs since September. I have three coming in the weeks ahead and then nothing until summer. Normally, I would've been scheduled 3 out of 4 weekends.
A couple months ago, I was considering that this season of my life might be over. I have hope that it might actually return. Either way, I'm really appreciating the opportunities I have now, however long they may last.
To the OP, didn't mean to hijack your thread. I hope you get the satisfaction you're looking for from an LS. It just didn't do it for me.
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GregC
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| danmusician wrote: | | GregC wrote: | | I can't speak for other states. Just the same I haven't noticed anyone bragging about near future gigs, not yet anyway. |
I don't gig in the traditional sense. I'm a Christian musician playing mainly in churches, camps, retreats, etc. I do solo, one-man-band type gigs. My specialty is smaller venues that can't afford or aren't interested in booking a full band. Here on the east coast, things are slowly beginning to open back up. We're a long way from normal.
I remain very cautious, social distancing, masking and hand washing/sanitizing. I prefer to handle my own equipment. Even under "normal" circumstances, hiring a roadie isn't practical. I'm good with that, but I do try to keep my rig as simple as possible.
The last 2 Sundays, I've had my first gigs since September. I have three coming in the weeks ahead and then nothing until summer. Normally, I would've been scheduled 3 out of 4 weekends.
A couple months ago, I was considering that this season of my life might be over. I have hope that it might actually return. Either way, I'm really appreciating the opportunities I have now, however long they may last.
To the OP, didn't mean to hijack your thread. I hope you get the satisfaction you're looking for from an LS. It just didn't do it for me. |
good you are hanging in. Not familiar with the worship venues, great you have worked out a niche.
i am near several wineries, and have spoken to them, pre-covid. Their attitude is that I have to bring in 50-100 drinkers. All about the $
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Docflick
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Korg Kronos 88 LS???? |
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| wocongming wrote: | | Guys. i already have 2 Kronos 88. but am looking in to buying the LS 88 cause of it being so much lighter. Cant find it ANYWHERE in my local stores so i can try it to make sure i like the light action on it. Can anyone here who has played one tell me if its a springy action , like an organ, where when you hold a note down it feels like it wants to spring up? or if it has like a soft bottom action llike the old Triton Pro where when you hold it down, it doesnt want to fight to go back up? anyone? thanx |
I owned a Kronos 2 88 for three years and currently own a Titanium 61. Last year, a local music store had an 88 LS on the floor and I played it for about 30 minutes to test it out. Here's my take: the action offers next to no resistance; it is lighter and has less spring-back than even that the "semi-weighted" keybed of the 61. Plus it has no aftertouch. All in all, I was not impressed – especially given that it is only 14 lbs. lighter than the regular 88. YMMV
In addition, based on threads here and elsewhere, more than a few LS owners have reported sinking keys after a short period of moderate use. So there may be a design issue or QA considerations with the LS action. Something to consider.
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wocongming
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| Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Korg Kronos 88 LS???? |
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| Docflick wrote: | | wocongming wrote: | | Guys. i already have 2 Kronos 88. but am looking in to buying the LS 88 cause of it being so much lighter. Cant find it ANYWHERE in my local stores so i can try it to make sure i like the light action on it. Can anyone here who has played one tell me if its a springy action , like an organ, where when you hold a note down it feels like it wants to spring up? or if it has like a soft bottom action llike the old Triton Pro where when you hold it down, it doesnt want to fight to go back up? anyone? thanx |
I owned a Kronos 2 88 for three years and currently own a Titanium 61. Last year, a local music store had an 88 LS on the floor and I played it for about 30 minutes to test it out. Here's my take: the action offers next to no resistance; it is lighter and has less spring-back than even that the "semi-weighted" keybed of the 61. Plus it has no aftertouch. All in all, I was not impressed – especially given that it is only 14 lbs. lighter than the regular 88. YMMV
In addition, based on threads here and elsewhere, more than a few LS owners have reported sinking keys after a short period of moderate use. So there may be a design issue or QA considerations with the LS action. Something to consider. |
thank you for being the one poster who actually understood the main idea of my question which was the action of the LS itself. Ill take that into consideration! |
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wocongming
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Korg Kronos 88 LS???? |
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| Docflick wrote: | | wocongming wrote: | | Guys. i already have 2 Kronos 88. but am looking in to buying the LS 88 cause of it being so much lighter. Cant find it ANYWHERE in my local stores so i can try it to make sure i like the light action on it. Can anyone here who has played one tell me if its a springy action , like an organ, where when you hold a note down it feels like it wants to spring up? or if it has like a soft bottom action llike the old Triton Pro where when you hold it down, it doesnt want to fight to go back up? anyone? thanx |
I owned a Kronos 2 88 for three years and currently own a Titanium 61. Last year, a local music store had an 88 LS on the floor and I played it for about 30 minutes to test it out. Here's my take: the action offers next to no resistance; it is lighter and has less spring-back than even that the "semi-weighted" keybed of the 61. Plus it has no aftertouch. All in all, I was not impressed – especially given that it is only 14 lbs. lighter than the regular 88. YMMV
In addition, based on threads here and elsewhere, more than a few LS owners have reported sinking keys after a short period of moderate use. So there may be a design issue or QA considerations with the LS action. Something to consider. |
i just finally tried the LS. You couldnt have been MORE WRONG my friend. Its the springiest action i even felt. Its a POS keybed and feels like the keys want to come up while you hold them down. I wouldnt spend $50 on that. Where did you come up with that it WASNT springy? huh? |
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Docflick
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| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Korg Kronos 88 LS???? |
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| wocongming wrote: | | Docflick wrote: | | wocongming wrote: | | Guys. i already have 2 Kronos 88. but am looking in to buying the LS 88 cause of it being so much lighter. Cant find it ANYWHERE in my local stores so i can try it to make sure i like the light action on it. Can anyone here who has played one tell me if its a springy action , like an organ, where when you hold a note down it feels like it wants to spring up? or if it has like a soft bottom action llike the old Triton Pro where when you hold it down, it doesnt want to fight to go back up? anyone? thanx |
I owned a Kronos 2 88 for three years and currently own a Titanium 61. Last year, a local music store had an 88 LS on the floor and I played it for about 30 minutes to test it out. Here's my take: the action offers next to no resistance; it is lighter and has less spring-back than even that the "semi-weighted" keybed of the 61. Plus it has no aftertouch. All in all, I was not impressed – especially given that it is only 14 lbs. lighter than the regular 88. YMMV
In addition, based on threads here and elsewhere, more than a few LS owners have reported sinking keys after a short period of moderate use. So there may be a design issue or QA considerations with the LS action. Something to consider. |
i just finally tried the LS. You couldnt have been MORE WRONG my friend. Its the springiest action i even felt. Its a POS keybed and feels like the keys want to come up while you hold them down. I wouldnt spend $50 on that. Where did you come up with that it WASNT springy? huh? |
I'm afraid you completely misunderstood my point. I stated that the LS keyed had no resistance – which I think it what you mean by it being "springy." I said "spring back," which means a typical semi-weighted response – i.e., like the Kronos 61.
We actually are in full agreement on the sub-par nature of the LS action. POS might be a bit strong, but I certainly would not buy it either.
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Docflick
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| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Korg Kronos 88 LS???? |
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| wocongming wrote: | | Docflick wrote: | | wocongming wrote: | | Guys. i already have 2 Kronos 88. but am looking in to buying the LS 88 cause of it being so much lighter. Cant find it ANYWHERE in my local stores so i can try it to make sure i like the light action on it. Can anyone here who has played one tell me if its a springy action , like an organ, where when you hold a note down it feels like it wants to spring up? or if it has like a soft bottom action llike the old Triton Pro where when you hold it down, it doesnt want to fight to go back up? anyone? thanx |
I owned a Kronos 2 88 for three years and currently own a Titanium 61. Last year, a local music store had an 88 LS on the floor and I played it for about 30 minutes to test it out. Here's my take: the action offers next to no resistance; it is lighter and has less spring-back than even that the "semi-weighted" keybed of the 61. Plus it has no aftertouch. All in all, I was not impressed – especially given that it is only 14 lbs. lighter than the regular 88. YMMV
In addition, based on threads here and elsewhere, more than a few LS owners have reported sinking keys after a short period of moderate use. So there may be a design issue or QA considerations with the LS action. Something to consider. |
i just finally tried the LS. You couldnt have been MORE WRONG my friend. Its the springiest action i even felt. Its a POS keybed and feels like the keys want to come up while you hold them down. I wouldnt spend $50 on that. Where did you come up with that it WASNT springy? huh? |
I'm afraid you completely misunderstood my point. I stated that the LS action had no resistance – which I think is what you mean by it being "springy." I said "spring back," which means a typical semi-weighted response – i.e., like the Kronos 61.
We actually are in full agreement on the sub-par nature of the LS action. POS might be a bit strong, but I certainly would not buy it either.
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GregC
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trying to define or explain key bed action on line, in words on the internet might be the most imprecise [ or confusing ] way to proceed, IMO.
It is a 95% subjective exercise.
For example, What I dislike about a keyboards keybed action/response might be perfectly ok for someone else.
Whats also almost impossible is that these expensive keyboards can't be found at retail.
In fact, its difficult to find a retail music store that is open, these days, plus their keyboard inventory is limited.
Retailers , most of them, allow a 30 day return option. make sure they cover return shipping
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Very true, Greg.
There was a time, not more than 5 years ago, when every major instrument retailer near me had demos of every flagship model. Now, it's rare to see a Montage or even the new Fantom—much less a Kronos 2 or LS—on the floor.
Makes an informed buying decision a bit more difficult—and next to impossible to get the "feel" for an instrument or its action.
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