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kbrkr Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:03 am Post subject: What are the Stereo Piano's like on the M3 |
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Personally, I think the Pianos on the TE are very thin. I'm thinking of switching to the M3 for that simple reason, but I have not seen any comments on the quality of the Bread and Butter sounds.
What are the Pianos like? How do they compare with Roland's Fantom?
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klarnet basowy Senior Member
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Italy
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:14 am Post subject: |
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I like the piano of the M3 a lot (especially the 3-way, program B-000, because the 4-way sounds too warm to me). At a first glance, it seems a bit soft, but then you realize that it's more real and less digital.
I like very much also the guitars, especially the steel and the nylon 2.
Bread&butter stuff is good on the M3, and it can also do a lot more than what the presets show in this respect. _________________ Kurzweil PC361
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: What are the Stereo Piano's like on the M3 |
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kbrkr wrote: | Personally, I think the Pianos on the TE are very thin. I'm thinking of switching to the M3 for that simple reason, but I have not seen any comments on the quality of the Bread and Butter sounds.
What are the Pianos like? How do they compare with Roland's Fantom?
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Al |
I had or have both. The very best Roland acoustic piano is the Superior Grand. Its in the Rd700sx( which I own) and is in the SRX-11
This sample is more 'dynamic' and complex than the M3 acoustic piano.
And of course, different pianos were sampled by Korg and Roland and the sampling techniques of both co's are different.
Compared to the Extreme, the M3 acoustic piano is a definite step up.
( I have both, Extreme 76 and M3-M) _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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kbrkr Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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That's great news! I suppose I can always load a sample CD, but I shy away from using long loading samples on live gigs just in case the power goes out or some other electrical problem.
I know the Roland piano's are very warm and complex, so it's great to hear that M3 piano's at least come close.
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Animal Junior Member
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: |
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But how do you compare M3's pianos and other sounds with Yamaha Motif XS? |
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GregC Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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I also have the xs Motif 76. I use that acoustic piano quite a bit.
again, the M3 acoustic piano is in the same league of quality. I think the M3 piano is a sampled Steinway- thats my gut feel/ear
other sound comparisons ? that has been discussed all over the forum if you do a search. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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kbrkr Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pleased to report that I went and actually demo'ed the M3 over the weekend with the intent of testing those pianos for myself. I've owned the Motif ES, and I currently own the Yamaha Tyros 2 and the P-250 and I'd say the Pianos in the M3 rival the Yamaha P-250. They are leaps and bounds ahead of the Triton Extreme. |
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klarnet basowy Senior Member
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I feel very good with Stereo Grand 3-way (B001) for more intimate sound, and Stereo Concert Piano (A064) for a broader sound sensation, they are my favourite. What are yours, people?
Andrew
Ps. The preset lacks a M1 piano, but there is the sample, so it's simple.. take the Stereo Grand 3way and subistitute the sample with the M1 piano one. The eq of this preset is good for M1 piano.
The only thing I was not able to do until now is to cancel the natural sustain on high notes, very realistic with "real" pianos, not good imho with M1 piano. _________________ Kurzweil PC361
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Dr.InnoVation Full Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: What are the Stereo Piano's like on the M3 |
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Fantom X will be the better option for a realistic piano sound. _________________ Keyboards: TritonExtreme88 Tweaked beyond all Recognition!
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GregC Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:53 pm Post subject: Re: What are the Stereo Piano's like on the M3 |
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Dr.InnoVation.Bennicelli wrote: | Fantom X will be the better option for a realistic piano sound. |
says the man who sounds ( looks ? ) like Peter Gabriel
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Yes, hard to beat the Fantom piano! |
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Animal Junior Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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But what about organ samples and comparison of them between M3 and XS? It's also kind of bread n' butter sound, isn't it?
As far as I know, neither of them don't have tonewheel organ modelling. Does anybody have some good separate drawbar, click and percussion samples that one can assign to sliders and move them like real drawbars? |
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Dr.InnoVation Full Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: Re: What are the Stereo Piano's like on the M3 |
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GregC wrote: | Dr.InnoVation.Bennicelli wrote: | Fantom X will be the better option for a realistic piano sound. |
says the man who sounds ( looks ? ) like Peter Gabriel
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says the illegitimate son of hef? lol
for those that have actually played a real reputable reknown piano would say nay to an M3 piano. Fact>opinion. _________________ Keyboards: TritonExtreme88 Tweaked beyond all Recognition!
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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And what "fact" are you pointing to? An opinion based on the fact that you played a "real reputable reknown piano" is just that - an opinion. If it is the case that you have played a "real reputable reknown piano", that is a fact for you. For the rest of us who did not witness this event, it's hearsay. And above all, you're opinion, in any stretch of logic, can never be a fact. So, your statement, 'Fact>opinion" does not apply.
In any comparison of sounds, whether we are talking about "real" pianos, sampled or pcm versions, we are relegated to the arena of perception and therefor can only make referrence to an opinion. It comes down to a matter of tastes, none of which are facts. _________________ Cheers,
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GregC Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: What are the Stereo Piano's like on the M3 |
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Dr.InnoVation.Bennicelli wrote: | GregC wrote: | Dr.InnoVation.Bennicelli wrote: | Fantom X will be the better option for a realistic piano sound. |
says the man who sounds ( looks ? ) like Peter Gabriel
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says the illegitimate son of hef? lol
for those that have actually played a real reputable reknown piano would say nay to an M3 piano. Fact>opinion. |
yes, Peter, stay with your CP70
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