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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: PA4X BAD LCD OPTIMIZATION (TOO BAD FROM A DEVELOPMENT T |
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Filipe Tomas wrote: | wy a poor visualization on PA4X ?
Wy too bad instrument icon's color's and resolution too ?
| What exactly did you expected from a simple interface keyboard screen resolution ?
Maybe a 2160x3840 screen resolution capable of side by side 1080p HD 3D video featured with active
3D glasses for better game experience ?
Both images are lower resolution BPM files included in Linux OS pack adapted to fair screen resolution that
can justify the easy operation of this simple interface and the lower cost of this keyboard !
If someone likes above then he can be happy using his gaming playstation since this is the last thing
in the world that a Musician or a developer would ever request compared to 256 polyphony , articulation
features and 4 Gb custom PCM Ram space ! _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
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Xx_Joey_xX Full Member
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 176 Location: Detroit USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:50 am Post subject: |
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KORG cutting corners on everything, mainly function and sound. _________________ pLaY yOuR wAy tO tHe nExT lEveL |
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | KORG cutting corners on everything, mainly function and sound |
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Xx_Joey_xX Full Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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To be honest, I'm not impressed what so ever, this is your new flagship arranger and it's basically a minor upgrade to the pa3x.
EDS sound engine, about 8-10 years old? _________________ pLaY yOuR wAy tO tHe nExT lEveL |
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Ah OK - So I guess it's not for you then.
I am going to wait and play it first - it's on my list but I'm not jumping in quickly.
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fResH_ Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 523 Location: SWEDEN
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Im waiting until I play on it myself. For now I still hear another pa1 pa2 pa3x when Im listening to pa4x. I have been upgrading ever since the pa80 to pa1xpro, pa800, pa2x and pa3x.
The internal sounds does not make me jump from my chair running to the store and order.
I hope alot os users wont buy/upgrade to this new keyboard in protest in showing KORG that we are now in year 2015 and not 8 years back in time. In the end it will sound the same. Most people does anyway load their old set to the new keyboard. _________________ // Matthew
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cobay
Joined: 18 Nov 2015 Posts: 39
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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If a lot of users told you that current resolution is almost unusable, you (korg team) tell us it's ok?
In my country there's a saying: If two or three people tell you that you're drunk, then go to sleep!"
If we (who just bought this arranger spending 3900€ on it) are telling you that screen resolution is not user-friendly you tell that is for less cpu usage or something.
My wireless router has better cpu and i spent 40€ on it.
I understand that it is a lot of work to redesign all interface pages using more pixels, but this is the price to advance to better products.
I hope that Korg won't let us down and solve all reported problems in future updates. |
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:45 am Post subject: |
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I am not arguing about this screen resolution complaints because I haven't played one yet BUT
I see many youtube video clips and despite the poor resolution of the actual video clips the PA4X looks very usable to me.
It may not be super HD but is it really "almost unusable?"
If it really is "almost unusable" then it must be so so so much worse that the PA3X screen (which I find "extremely usable")
To anyone who is lucky enough to own both PA3X and PA4X, please give us a real companion review regarding the screen clarity and maybe some close-up photos.
Thanks
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Filipe Tomas
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:32 am Post subject: |
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cobay wrote: | If a lot of users told you that current resolution is almost unusable, you (korg team) tell us it's ok?
In my country there's a saying: If two or three people tell you that you're drunk, then go to sleep!"
If we (who just bought this arranger spending 3900€ on it) are telling you that screen resolution is not user-friendly you tell that is for less cpu usage or something.
My wireless router has better cpu and i spent 40€ on it.
I understand that it is a lot of work to redesign all interface pages using more pixels, but this is the price to advance to better products.
I hope that Korg won't let us down and solve all reported problems in future updates. |
Hi, seem that user's that consider a good LCD interface ( Resolution, Optimization, utilization, eyes care save) are in MINORITY
karmathanever, there are the photo, too much "effects ans shadows" in letter type font.
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Giner Platinum Member
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 1347 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:24 am Post subject: |
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In the original examples of the screen posted at the top of this thread I found the lettering to be readable, so I'm not sure what fuss is about. Of course, blowing up to the huge percentage in the last example obviously makes it appear bad.
Note: Viewed through bi-focals on 72-year-old eyes. _________________ When I nod my head . . . Hit it!
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Hi Filipe
Thank you for that
Could you please post a similar picture of the PA3X screen
So - is the PA900/PA3XLe screen the same "style" of screen (hardware-wise) as the PA4X?
Thanks
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Filipe Tomas
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hi karmathanever, there is the PA3x compatible photo:
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Asena Approved Merchant
Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 2553 Location: Sweden/Malmoe
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Well, i,m not impressed of this KB , just don,t tell me that this is a MAJOR step upp from Pa3X.
Did not find any big difference here.
If you are owner of pa 2 X , Than it,s much better to jump on the pa 3 X.
From 3 , to 4 NO!
This is my opinion.
I really hope the Display can be better for users.
And realy, NEXT time they must improve the ram, new styles , new Wave use instead of KMP KSF, more FX, Better all, for 4000 Euros there must be better things. _________________ www.globalsound.se
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konio124 Junior Member
Joined: 10 Feb 2011 Posts: 52 Location: Poland/Ireland
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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In korg pa4x letters on the screen are blurred.
A low-resolution image is displayed on the screen with high resolution
I hope that Korg will fix it.
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Filipe
Appreciated but I was rather hoping to see the images having the same resolution to be able to compare.
I think I can see the concerns though.
Earlier, I wrote: | So - is the PA900/PA3XLe screen the same "style" of screen (hardware-wise) as the PA4X?
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Do PA3Xle/PA600/PA900 owners share the same screen resolution concerns?
Cheers
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