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keyboard Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Mar 2002 Posts: 248 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:26 pm Post subject: Midi to Style Feature.. |
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Will this create a workable style from a midi ?
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mintjamman Platinum Member
Joined: 11 Oct 2015 Posts: 670 Location: London, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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From my own testing its hit and miss, the quality of the original Midi file also seems to play a part here. I have converted a number of Midi Files as a test and have been able to get usable results but a innovative as this feature is I am not sure I would make a lot of use of it. The conversion appears to analyse the midi file loaded but then uses the intro section of that file, unless you want to identify your style as that song which your audience might think your about to play its like a false tab of sorts. I would have much preferred to have been able to select sections of a midi file to get particular rifts or feel's but currently Korg have given us as it is.
In short Useful but each will have their own take on exactly how useful _________________ Yamaha S90ES, Korg Triton Pro, EXB Moss, Roland XV5080, Korg EX8000, Korg Pa4x 76, Korg Kronos 88, Crumar MOJO, Logic Pro X, V Collection, Novation SL61,Vienna, Korg Pa4x , EC-5, Vienna, Arturia V Collection, Roland SC88 Pro, Roland D110, Alesis SR16, Alesis D4 |
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Paolo@Korg Korg Italy
Joined: 07 Dec 2002 Posts: 1090
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Please remember that accurate conversion of MIDI files to Styles, manually controlling each single section of the Style, can still be done with the Import SMF function.
So, in case automatic conversion is not producing the expected results, you can still do your conversion. Import SMF may appear complicate at first, but it is actually quite easy to use.
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keyboard Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Mar 2002 Posts: 248 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Can the "midi to Style" Style be used in other PA Boards ?
Please advise
Ron |
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Giner Platinum Member
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 1347 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's very much a first step. A very innovative feature that gives Korg a leg up against the competition, so there's sure to be more to come. What it needs is for the other big manufacturers to get on this, if they haven't already done so, and push this technology along.
Maybe it's the type of thing that Korg will improve with OS updates, and the sort of thing that Yamaha will happily relieve you of $6,000 for. _________________ When I nod my head . . . Hit it!
Pa3x-61, Pa1xPro, i30, Micromoog (1975) |
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Sam CA Platinum Member
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 3990 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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keyboard wrote: | Can the "midi to Style" Style be used in other PA Boards ?
Please advise
Ron |
Not a PA4x owner just yet, though I think you should really be asking if a PA4x style IN GENERAL can be loaded into other PA series. Again, I don't know this for sure, but I think the Style that you get from this feature is not a special format style at all. It would be just like any other factory style, except it will need lots of tweaking and editing (depending on the complexity of the midi file) to turn it into a fully useable Style. In most cases, it'd be probably faster if you did the whole thing yourself from scratch, that is if you're looking for quality material.
I'm saying this because according to the manual, you have ZERO control over any part of this process. To begin with, PA4x decides which part of the midi file should be used for which element . I'd say, this would only give you a starting point... . _________________ Sam
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mintjamman Platinum Member
Joined: 11 Oct 2015 Posts: 670 Location: London, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:02 am Post subject: |
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That's the trouble Lack of control so it's machine based as to what result you might end up with _________________ Yamaha S90ES, Korg Triton Pro, EXB Moss, Roland XV5080, Korg EX8000, Korg Pa4x 76, Korg Kronos 88, Crumar MOJO, Logic Pro X, V Collection, Novation SL61,Vienna, Korg Pa4x , EC-5, Vienna, Arturia V Collection, Roland SC88 Pro, Roland D110, Alesis SR16, Alesis D4 |
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Sharp Site Admin
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 18197 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Got to try a Pa4X myself today and the Midi File to Style conversion process.
My 2 cents.
This is a fully automated process that depends on a quality midi file. So if you load a poor quality file into the Pa4X, it's not magically going to improve it.
A factory style is also something that's written specifically for the sounds in the Pa4X and tweaked by professionals, where a Midi File is not as it's a generic file written to work with any GM keyboard and GM sound library.
So, one has to adjust their expectations of the conversion process based on those factors.
That being said, I was pleasantly surprised just how far this feature goes to producing a usable Style. I found the end result very playable for all files I converted. If you were in a hurry, and your lazy, it's certainly a feature you can use as is.
If your semi motivated, to improve on this, in all cases some basic tweaking of volumes and the choice of sounds assigned to each part of the style greatly helped in the quality of the end result. Obviously.
If your highly motivated, to get something on par with the factory styles, this feature does all the ground work for you and gives you an excellent starting point. From this point onwards you must simply do the work in Style Edit mode to shape the style, and you will need to record certain parts in order to achieve proper intros and so on.
So all in all, this is a darn powerful feature to have in a Keyboard. It has varied levels of success and quality of the style largely depend on the quality of the midi file your using, and just how motivated you are in polishing it off.
It gets a two thumbs up from me for sure. I'm very impressed just how far this feature goes all on it's own.
Regards
Sharp. _________________
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DonM Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 1150 Location: Benton, LA
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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My impressions were exactly the same Sharp.
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snoitan
Joined: 11 Dec 2014 Posts: 38
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:56 am Post subject: |
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I've never really used midi files much. How difficult is it to get good, quality midi files for songs? |
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