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96th_Malice
Joined: 05 Jan 2013 Posts: 32 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 2:14 am Post subject: OASYS - Live with a drummer ?? |
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OK I will make this as simple as possible
I'm setting up the OASYS to use live and my drummer has questions that I can't answer
FIRST OFF ..... We don't want to sequence anything
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There is a few songs where I'd like some of the Karma features running through some of our cover songs BUT expecting a drummer to follow the keys for timing seems a bit absurd ( to him and myself )
I guess here are the questions
Can a line out be run OUT of the OASYS to a monitor for the drummer that would have a click track ?
Like in combination mode for example ..... Could I add a " click " or snare or " something " that would only run to him and NOT be heard through the front mix.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I honestly don't know how to approach this ..... Other than letting him start the song .... And I tap in the tempo and hope he stays 100% perfect on time
If there is a simple method that I'm missing ..... I'm open to suggestions ....
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vEddY Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 1263 Location: Zagreb
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:56 am Post subject: Re: OASYS - Live with a drummer ?? |
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The easiest way to do that would be to use the SEQ mode. Then you can route metronome to go to individual output. So, SEQ mode, go to Preference tab, and under "Metronome Setup", use "Bus Output" - change from L/R to individual output of your choice. You could use Karma for various things in this respect, although I don't know if there's a way to assign some buttons or controls so that you can skip to specific song parts without manually skipping to specific song location.
Personally, I think that it's much more comfortable to use backing tracks. It's much more comfortable for anyone. And if your band members are giving you the "it's boring, robotic, it's all the same, we have to do a song in a fixed order then", then think about using Ableton or some other non-linear sequencing tool. By using Ableton, you could use a simple controller like nanoPad to skip to specific song parts of your choice. In which case it becomes less "robotic", although I do feel that it's a semi-lame excuse not to do backing tracks if by using them you get the song to sound great. _________________ Check out http://it-review.net. Reviews and news - hardware, software and musical instruments.
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kenackr Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 521 Location: Corpus Christi Metro Area
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 12:47 am Post subject: |
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It's difficult to understand what you're trying to do. It sounds like you are not familiar with the Oasys. Think of it as a piano style synth with many voices.
The Oasys does not produce what most people think of as a click track. As vEddy pointed out, there is a metronome that can be used in the Sequencer but it is meant to be used primarily during recording and /or practice.
The Oasys has 8 independent outputs on the rear, any of which can run separately to any monitor as long as it is a line level signal, to a monitor with an amp.
Karma is certainly a wonderful and very cool thing. It generates it's own musical phrases. Karma in the Oasys is preprogramed (but could be reprogramed by a very knowledgeable owner) but a novice who doesn't own the Oasys should leave it that way. _________________ O88, T1, Wavestation, M1r, Pa 4X 76, Proteus 1-3, Morpheus, UltraProteus, K1200, Akai S2000, DP8 |
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kenackr Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 521 Location: Corpus Christi Metro Area
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 12:50 am Post subject: |
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It's difficult to understand what you're trying to do. It sounds like you are not familiar with the Oasys. Think of it as a piano style synth with many voices.
The Oasys does not produce what most people think of as a click track. As vEddy pointed out, there is a metronome that can be used in the Sequencer but it is meant to be used primarily during recording and /or practice.
The Oasys has 8 independent outputs on the rear, any of which can run separately to any monitor as long as it is a line level signal, to a monitor with an amp.
Karma is certainly a wonderful and very cool thing. It generates it's own musical phrases. Karma in the Oasys is preprogramed (but could be reprogramed by a very knowledgeable owner) but a novice who doesn't own the Oasys should leave it that way. _________________ O88, T1, Wavestation, M1r, Pa 4X 76, Proteus 1-3, Morpheus, UltraProteus, K1200, Akai S2000, DP8 |
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:31 am Post subject: |
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VEddy's suggestion is good - Copy a combi into the sequencer, and you can use the sequencer's metronome to send a click out a separate output to just the drummer.
Now, in a combi itself, if you had a free KARMA Module, you could select a drum pattern that was very simple and repetitive, and send that out a separate output to the drummer. It wouldn't exactly be a click, but it would be something that he could sync with. _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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