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ldascanio Full Member
Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Posts: 169 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos LS |
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I read somewhere that this new LS model will be priced the same as the regular 73 key model. That would put it at $3400 street, just $300 less than the standard 88 key version. I guess that makes sense, it does have the same guts as the standard one, just a different keybed.
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Distributor in Argentina is listing the LS comming in March.Weird think here is that's priced 27% higher than Kronos 2 73 and even 19% higher than Kronos 2 88 !!!!!!
...No sense for a non weighted keyboard without even aftertouch :-S _________________ Leo
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos LS |
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ldascanio wrote: | [quote=
I read somewhere that this new LS model will be priced the same as the regular 73 key model. That would put it at $3400 street, just $300 less than the standard 88 key version. I guess that makes sense, it does have the same guts as the standard one, just a different keybed.
Paul |
Distributor in Argentina is listing the LS comming in March.Weird think here is that's priced 27% higher than Kronos 2 73 and even 19% higher than Kronos 2 88 !!!!!!
...No sense for a non weighted keyboard without even aftertouch :-S[/quote]
some early buyers typically are willing to pay more. Dealers, distributors know this.
I agree, would not touch it with the high prices. I am not sure where the value is. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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drama1 Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 662
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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I would think at the very least Korg should throw in one or two extra libraries into the LS to make up for the lack of aftertouch. That would also make it more marketable. I'm hoping it comes to the States before summer fest season starts. I could use a board like the LS. |
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jorgemncardoso Full Member
Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 237
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a bit surprised to see a somewhat lack of enthusiasm (interest) here for the Kronos LS..
I mean, at least from the gigging guys... I think this is great news, not only reduces weight but the lighter action/piano waterfall keys is a great compromise for piano based/organ and synth based playing.
And i absolutley love the fact the bottom panel is metal and not wood
Great pics from all angles on this site: http://store.ishibashi.co.jp/ec/pro/disp/1/08-431145710
I would prefer they made the LS 73 key version instead of the 88 (or at least in conjunction with...) but it's all good
Oh and BTW, the lack of aftertouch is not close to being a deal breaker for me, i would rather it had it, but not restrictive for me. I really don't use it that often, even less on piano style keybeds.
*EDIT: I just realized, why is this thread not on the Kronos section...? _________________ ________________________________________
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Korg: Trinity, 01/Wfd (2X), T3 ex, Wavestation SR
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1546 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's great for gigging!
If my Kronos breaks or gets stolen etc... I will probably pick up the LS. _________________ Korg Kronos, CASIO PX-5S, Yamaha VL1, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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drama1 Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 662
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Why in the world Korg didn't make it a 73/76 version just astounds me. Gigging musicians want light, compact boards. While the LS is in the right direction, it's still very long in its length and I gotta believe most that want 88 keys are going to opt for the weighted version. A 73/76 would have hit the mark right on the head for the weekend warrior, which most of us are. |
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jorgemncardoso Full Member
Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 237
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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drama1 wrote: | Why in the world Korg didn't make it a 73/76 version just astounds me. Gigging musicians want light, compact boards. While the LS is in the right direction, it's still very long in its length and I gotta believe most that want 88 keys are going to opt for the weighted version. A 73/76 would have hit the mark right on the head for the weekend warrior, which most of us are. |
+1 _________________ ________________________________________
Keyboard Gear:
Korg: Trinity, 01/Wfd (2X), T3 ex, Wavestation SR
Yamaha: Motif XS8
Roland: expanded JV-1010 modules (3X)
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1546 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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I would love a 76 note version with the 61 note keybed. Would be great! _________________ Korg Kronos, CASIO PX-5S, Yamaha VL1, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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Joe Gerardi Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2012 Posts: 534 Location: Savannah, GA
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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drama1 wrote: | it's still very long in its length and I gotta believe most that want 88 keys are going to opt for the weighted version. |
Dunno. As I get older, I think I would appreciate a lighter touch for my hands.
As to aftertouch- well, it's an 88- there ain't NO pianos extant that have AT, so I don't see it as an issue. 76 or 61 synth-action? Yeah: I'll bitch like hell about omitting AT; but an 88 is for pianistic style, and that excludes AT. If you need it, cowboy up and bring a second keyboard that has it.
MIDI is your friend for that.
..Joe _________________ Current setup: Korg Kronos 61, Roland XV-88 Korg Triton-Rack, Motif-Rack, Korg N1r, Roland M-GS64, Alesis QSR, Yamaha KX88 & KX76, Roland Super-JX, Juno-Stage, Kawai K4, Kawai K1II. |
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wma Full Member
Joined: 17 Feb 2013 Posts: 127
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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as yiu guys talking about the keybeds, if somebody please tell me how the action on the kronos 61 or the m3 61/73 differs/compares with the action on the pa900/pa3xle - fatar tp9s weighted with aftertouch is the keybed used on pa900 as the one used on novation sl61 & ni komplete kontrol s61 |
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3126
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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aron wrote: | I would love a 76 note version with the 61 note keybed. Would be great! |
Thats probably what everyone wants...
So why give it to them? Thats much to simple... _________________ Korg Kronos 2/88 , Genos, Mainstage3 +VSTsu, ipad pro, GSi Gemini, Roland Integra 7, Jupiter Xm, Yamaha motif XS rack, Ketron SD90.
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Bertotti Platinum Member
Joined: 10 Jul 2010 Posts: 3384 Location: Middle of nowhere
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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No AT in any size workstation synth is a pain. I wish the minilogue had it but the price was right for the cost of the LS I expect AT, deal breaker for me. I would buy the weighted version instead. Good thing they have both. |
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jorgemncardoso Full Member
Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 237
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Bertotti wrote: | No AT in any size workstation synth is a pain. I wish the minilogue had it but the price was right for the cost of the LS I expect AT, deal breaker for me. I would buy the weighted version instead. Good thing they have both. |
The AT "need" question varies according to each one's needs and the type of music one plays the most.
I've always been hearing lots of guys rave or complain about AT all the way since the late 80's when i started to play synths/workstations and for me, while it's always good to have, is in no way a "fundamental" thing to have. I've always hardly used it anyway. There is a lot of other controls you can assign the AT function to.
That being said, i've always been a "piano" kind of guy rather than a "synth'y" one, even if i play a lot of synth...
And i always have two keyboards with me, synth action on the top one. That's a minimum requirement for me. Can't be on stage with only one keyboard, i would feel totally naked.
I really don't get this "one keyboard on stage does it all" trend this days _________________ ________________________________________
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Korg: Trinity, 01/Wfd (2X), T3 ex, Wavestation SR
Yamaha: Motif XS8
Roland: expanded JV-1010 modules (3X)
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Joe Gerardi Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2012 Posts: 534 Location: Savannah, GA
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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jorgemncardoso wrote: |
I really don't get this "one keyboard on stage does it all" trend this days |
I'm with you there. I was recently asked to play in a band (well, about 18 months ago now.) I wanted to pare down the rig, and the best I could come up with was a 76-key and 61 key 2 keyboard setup. Three boards used to be my bare minimum, but with how simple music is today, I didn't see the need for 3.
Dunno. I think keyboard players have guitar envy- the guy who can carry in his entire setup in one go, that they feel the need to do the same thing. Well, that and how basic most keyboard parts are today- I used to play a lot of Genesis and Journey, and Styx, and Mr. Mister, Simple Minds and Tears for Fears, and a whole lot of others, and there's no way people today can do that on one board; the one-finger and block chords of most new stuff today? Yeah, there's no reason to spend a lot of money on high-quality stuff for that dreck.
..Joe _________________ Current setup: Korg Kronos 61, Roland XV-88 Korg Triton-Rack, Motif-Rack, Korg N1r, Roland M-GS64, Alesis QSR, Yamaha KX88 & KX76, Roland Super-JX, Juno-Stage, Kawai K4, Kawai K1II. |
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vEddY Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 1263 Location: Zagreb
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Joe Gerardi wrote: |
Well, that and how basic most keyboard parts are today- I used to play a lot of Genesis and Journey, and Styx, and Mr. Mister, Simple Minds and Tears for Fears, and a whole lot of others, and there's no way people today can do that on one board; the one-finger and block chords of most new stuff today? Yeah, there's no reason to spend a lot of money on high-quality stuff for that dreck.
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It's best if we stay away from generalizations (there's no way - yes, there is). I did the same thing for years, with only one board (OASYS). I was able to deliver all the necessary sounds (just like on a CD), on one keyboard (albeit a 88-key model), without a single problem. Why would I carry two keyboards if I can do it all on one? _________________ Check out http://it-review.net. Reviews and news - hardware, software and musical instruments.
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