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korg1 · Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:56 am Post subject:

Sorry,i forgot to mention that mine is a 76keys with factory HD
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AntonySharmman · Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:41 am Post subject:

musiccankill · Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:53 pm Post subject:

Mine is PKG too and i have had a few reboots. I believe it was MY fault though as i was fiddling with the OS these times...One time it happened unexpectedly but after reloading everything it never happened again...
There is a bug (or more) causing the reboots and i know where and what triggers it but i can't see how this could happen in normal operation....Corrupted resources or unclean "drive" before updating could be it but no time to research in more depth...
The os should handle and clean or not load at all any faulty resources in my opinion so these would never occur but maaaybe in a future update....
Also pkg vs upd have more differences than just encryption...
And it is not only related to pkg vs upd but even pkg (or upd group) models are different on their own in production batches...
Yes the executable linux runs is the exact same but the boot loader and/or some related files are not!!
Never researched about pad sync issue or tried to replicate so no personal opinion on that...
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korg1 · Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:59 pm Post subject:

ok,Wanna reproduce a restart?
If i remember right,do this :

MEDIA--->USB--->ENABLE HD. Check if the drive appears on your pc,try to navigate into the drive for a while,and then DISABLE connection again.

Now go to songbook.Go to SETLIST.
Chose a setlist from your Direct set ,andenable setlist edit .
Now press songbook and use filter to find any sb entry you want,and when you do that,then ADD TO LIST .

Now press WRITE on lower right corner to write the setlist....
OOOOPPPSSSSS......a restart maybe?
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musiccankill · Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 11:19 pm Post subject:

Asena · Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 1:57 am Post subject:

OMG Guys What the funk is wrong with you?

Antony, Abi Wink

Chill down a litle bit, The KB itself is not Bug free so pls, I have big respect for you , you know that but come on, I have video files i can paste here, and belive me it,s BUG,s

Why getting mad, see the fact and try to solve this with KORGIES

I have one Q, Is Korg gonna fix this problems or NOT!

And when?
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AntonySharmman · Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 1:44 pm Post subject:

Dear Asena , first read carefully what I've posted , nobody have doubts that some of you face issues , that I'm trying to examine is what is
exactly the cause that enables those issues in OS and Pa system.
Since as an expert in PaSeries , I can't replicate mentioned issues in Pa4X factory or my fully custom Set , means that OS v3.0.1 is not
responsible for those 2 famous issues of sync & restarting , for other bugs , all are possible and it's commonly known from KorgPa OS history.

Therefore in order to address those issues you really face , you have as first to listen to my advice and clear all external resources via factory
restoring and try to replicate them in a clear installation with factory resources with nothing else loaded.
- If you can't replicate them , then the cause of issues is obvious ... custom resources & files.
- If you still have the same issues under factory restoration then we have to find out what might cause those malfunctions in some users ,
OS installer / hardware / or any other possible reason and I'm willing to do my best helping you.

Real OS bugs , soon or little later , will be all addressed by Korg if can be replicated , that's for sure for a flagship product that Korg has
invested instead of releasing Pa5X.
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korg1 · Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:12 pm Post subject:

I will write it once again : In my case, nothing was loaded on pa4x for3 weeks,that means it was all factory resources only.

I would be very upset if someone tells me that i paid so much money on a keyboard with a crappy HD.

The HD has 431Gb free of 465Gb,so if there is any fragmentation issue so soon,that probably means that HD is a really cheep one,and that's a shame for Korg.

We are suppose to save our ''precious material'' there.
All our sounds and styles....something that some of us work for many years.

Even crappy HD,there is no excuse for that restart,or freeze or whatever is happening.

Korg can give me back the money i paid 2-3 years ago,and i will buy an arranger that will actually work ,even if it doesn't have that ram or HD or possibilities. It will work....

What is happening with pa4x is just unacceptable....
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D575 · Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:35 pm Post subject:

I wonder why my same backup file from OS V1 and OS V2 which has been rock solid pre OS V3.01 install and only post OS V3.01 install I am now seeing on occasions at random using factory styles with factory PADS and factory sounds this PAD sync issues which many are reporting across this forum... then when i revert back to OS V2 this PAD sync anomaly is no longer apparent ?... Surely the contradiction is between OS V2 and OS V3.01 ?....Could it be then if OS V3.01 is NOT responsible for this issue this would suggest that OS V1 and OS V2 where poorly constructed because we should historically be seeing inconsistencies like PAD sync issues or similar malfunctions seen with OS V3.01... and my backup file is apparently the real perpetrator regarding this PAD sync issues and korg would now appear to of made a mistake by allowing me to have a stable rock soild operating systems pre OS V3.01 which of course in my instance would include my backup file ???
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AntonySharmman · Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 10:21 pm Post subject:

korg1 · Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:28 pm Post subject:

I think we all know what Factory state is.....nothing external was attached on pa4x ,nothing loaded,no global loaded,no PCG, no mSD/USB media storage drives or devices connected as you said,Just the internal FACTORY HD.

I just gave an example using the Direct set's songbook,for a let's say even easier way of replicate the restart.

I am sure,you can replicate it using the internal ''FACTORY'' UNTOUCHED SONGBOOK,as long as you keep the procedure step by step.....

This works for V3.00 ,V3.01 as well...just try it and let me know

BUT this isn't a normal logical way of thinking...
So,we will have a HD,but we can't use it?
we must not put files in it or folders ?
Or even browse the hard disk?
There is no common sense in that....

we can use only the factory songbook and entries ,but not anything else ,otherwise our keyboard will restart ,become blue and transform maybe to a Genos?

We can not load our styles under the fear of a restart? Nice flagship product ....i have to say i can't accept that logic,i'm sorry
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AntonySharmman · Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:11 am Post subject:

I can't help you with Song Book , I have deleted all entries and this won't change in my current programming state ,
I had mentioned that from the beginning , so this might can confirmed by someone else that is willing to help.
I've never loaded OS v3.0.0 , I had waited for this latest corrective release , as also soon another one will follow.
Maybe there is a bug there that triggers restarting , but for me that I'm not using SB , restart has never happened under OS 3.0.1 ,
only sometimes system freeze after 14 working hours in environment temperature over 35 degrees of Celsius during hot summer ,
under all OS and all PaSeries and I owned all these years.

Anyway , all that were needed to be mentioned by me , are already written scattered in many posts above for anyone who is interested
so good luck with your bugs , I won't tolerate any more aggressive behavior for my valuable time that I spend sharing my knowledge.

All the best
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Asena · Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:20 am Post subject:

Guys, I have big respect for Antony and his knowledge, I have almoustly all the set,s he is selling and creating. So far so good, BUT, i,m also a Keyboard player since 40 years back, I had all KB brands and all Korg series.
I can see that Some of the great functions are not included on newer units,
I can hear difrences between the KB,s even if Korg says There is no difrence on 900/800 700/ 1000 etc.

The system is the same they are improving from 80/1X/2X/3X 4X 5 X etc etc.
When they come out with 2X it was the same OS but better and more flexible,

After some time they added more things like you can Read NOTES , and so, Now on the 4x KARMA(Wich is not KARMA) it,s not even close, But funn if you can handle it.
In my opnion the best thing korg offers for now is the Style files for Pa Series, my bigg Thanx for the people behind that, 17,18,29,30 etc Style Bank files.
They are PRO maded and The Style programmers are realy god on todays music market!
No more Rumba Mamba Cha Cha , Wiener!!!
What i don,t get is that How can Korg make this OS unstable and giving it out?

I have never seen anything like this.

And For My Friend And (ABI) Brother , Yes you are great on sounds i love them i,m using them evry gig, BUT, If i send some of my vid,s you will not say some of the things you are saying repetitly , Like The samples are 3,rd pers, The Samples are missing and more.
YES there is some seriously bugs on the KORG Pa 4X, and YES there is many people that claims KORG for it, Yes my KB lags some times, Yes The Pad Sync & SB is not a lie!!!

And YES the unit shuts down, And it has nothing to do with Missing samples or Power stuff!

I have 2 PA4X front of me, And Same set file worx great on one 2.2 unit, and Not Working on the 3.0 or 3.1, WHY=?
Also remember that KorgPaManager is a tool from Us, And the Developer is like my brother, So I can delete Grey not founded Files Samples etc, And even than the Pad,s are not sync.
I must say that, we are all in the same boat, Some of us are Experts Some Home Musicians And Some Is like me Gigging 3 times every week,
So for me I,m hoping for an update, WHY becouse KORG Told me that they are gonna Make An Working OS.

I respect people behind the scenes, KORGIES, YES I Do, And i,m hoping that they will fixx all this, So we can Make Music instead of chatting here .

I Love Music And I Love to Digg in it, So give me all you got, and i make evrything with that.

Anthony is a great resurce and realy kind person, I think all the forum is like a family, So be patient, And Lets see what korg can give us in few week,s.
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MEDELI AKX-10

MacbookproM2-Ssd/Logic/Neuman/Kali Audio8/Komplette14SDD/ Apollo Twin/PIONEER XDJ RX 2
LOTS OF SAMPLE SOUNDS!
KorgPaManager V 5

Aripearlmusic · Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:55 pm Post subject:

The compression algorithm source code on OS V3 is different from OS V2. It allows compression of samples twice as long as the compression limit on OS V2.2. Thats just one of many changes to they way the keyboard treats and stores the PCM. PCM which stands for Pulse Code Modulation is a filing and streaming system for the Samples to be able to recall and play them in real-time. The tech was developed for telecommunications. If one sample in the PCM stream is corrupted or missing it will disrupt the sample streaming and cause a variety of issues like a restart or a freeze or even further corrupted of otherwise good data. Instead of arguing for not fixing your set (by removing corrupted samples and resaving everything custom or modified into 4x format) like it's korgs fault you should either pay someone competent to do it for you or fix it yourself. Everyone i know who makes and uses only their own sounds and styles has no complaints about the new OS besides the color scheme (until they do their first gig with stage lighting and see the advantage of it)
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ponkine · Junior Member Joined: 10 Mar 2019 Posts: 95

I'm starting to suspect that all these bugs, shutdowns and everything else from the OS 3.0 were done on purpose to give the Pa4X a programmed obsolescence (pretty much like iphones) and then release the Pa5X

Sad