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Bertotti · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:25 pm Post subject:

Would love complete but I have never liked the way they work the system around Maschine and the lost functionality from 1.8. They string you along and push packs. I won't give them anymore money anytime soon. I can easily live with hardware and what software I have but I appreciate Komplete is great. I would like to have it and may someday. I will go for Omnisphere first if I do any more software. As for controllers I really don't want anything other then Roli stuff. I have been hooked by them completely. I also like that they took suggestions and implemented them ASAP!

Sharp · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:54 pm Post subject:

Thanks Bachus.
I do have Pianoteq, but I will certainly be putting Omnisphere on my shopping list at some point.

Right now I'm looking forward to getting Kontakt 5 up and running with all my own content as well as the orchestral sounds that come with it.

Sharp · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:28 pm Post subject:

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

Komplete and Maschine aren't really related in the way you seem to think they are, or I'm not understanding you correctly, Bertotti.
Maschine is a (limited) pattern and sampling based DAW with a lot of original sounds and indeed, loads of expansion packs that you can buy or not. It also ships with Massive and Komplete Elements, both of which are just sound generators that loosely integrate with Maschine but also any other DAW. Komplete (or Komplete Ultimate) is a massive collection of VST synths and FX with upwards of 300GB of sample content.

You can use one without the other, the only way they're related is that the VSTs included in Komplete can be loaded in Maschine and Maschine can read/browse the presets. FWIW I virtually never use them together - I use the Komplete VSTs in Sonar and I use Maschine to build drum patterns with its included sounds. I have a bunch of expansion packs but stopped buying when I realized I have several thousand kick drums in there (plus the drum synth).

Bertotti · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:30 pm Post subject:

I understand that and my needs are limited so i can easily pass. I really would only love to have reaktor 6 and Kontakt. I don't have a need or want of all the samples they ship with it. I would be thrilled if they offered a limited bundle of just some of the engines if thats the right way to put it.

My avoiding NI is simply because of the lack of follow through on what they have said they will do with maschine. They broke what many of us used no it is a work around waiting to happen. Promises to fix these things and years go by with new sound packs and new hardware and new bells and whistles but the core functions many lost with the 2.0 upgrade have never been taken care of. Just me being pissy in the end but I vote with my wallet most of the time. I can not say I won't change my mind, i may, and I can not say Komplete is crap because it isn't. Komplete is a great bundle of items. Many I would like to have but don't need and can live without, so I do. Now I am no pro, I rarely worry about emulating a tone or sound from a song or group, and anytime I have looked for a sound i have found a way to get it with what I have.
I will say I would not part with Komplete player and kinetic metal it is my absolute favorite!

Bertotti · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:49 pm Post subject:

Sorry Sharp I don't want to put a damp rag on your purchase because you will have a blast with Komplete!

Sharp · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:16 pm Post subject:

Bertotti · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:45 am Post subject:

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

You can get just Kontakt and Reaktor too, if you want. Pretty sure they offer crossgrades or upgrades.

Out of curiosity, what specifically do you miss in M2 that is in 1.8?
And what is stopping you from continuing to use 1.8?

Bertotti · Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:13 pm Post subject:

for me it is mostly the way it worked in logic before and now. I just don't like it now. in my infinite wisdom I deleted 1.8 and have no luck getting it again. I was especially boneheaded that day, apparently!

I think now what I will do it use it for audio only jut like any other non midi instrument and record it in through my audio interface. That would remove all frustration for me, when I think about it I never played around changing sound and events after the fact anyway.

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

I honestly am not a big fan of the way it works as VST either. I like to build a beat in it and then usually export audio loops, soloing the individual parts and dragging them onto the Sonar timeline.

Sharp · Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:22 pm Post subject:

My NI S61 controller arrived today. Just been playing with it for the last 3 hours. I'm very impressed by how much content komplete select comes with. If someones intentions were to only purchase the keyboard, it's seems like a really great deal. That siad, I'll certainly be upgrading Select to Ultimate this week.

Sharp.

Sam CA · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:40 pm Post subject:

Bachus · Platinum Member Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3126

Sharp · Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:02 pm Post subject: