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kbrkr · Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:51 pm Post subject: Losing Polyphony?

On a few of the big band styles, I seem to be losing polyphony big time.

I'm playing piano in right had, Dark Pad with fingered chords on the left and when I switch to Brass and play 4 note chords in the right hand, I'm dropping notes like crazy.

Is there a setting or is sound stealing going on?
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ozdaniel(AD) · Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Losing Polyphony?

D575 · Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:03 pm Post subject:

I have noticed polyphony stealing on occasions and discussed this here before ...
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BR · Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:49 pm Post subject:

Me too, I had Polyphony issue with 3/4 style (ex; factory style Waltz) when using strings (with Ensemble ON) in the past.
I just gave up to follow up and troubleshooting.
I notices this issue since Korg Pa1X.

D575 · Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:19 pm Post subject:

Yes ensemble is the trigger for me also, the modem arranger is a powerful tool especially the PA4X... it's just a shame we are missing some horsepower here at times i would expect the PA5X to be double next time, as that is the general rule of thumb when you see increases in polyphony when product lines evolve....
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kbrkr · Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:55 pm Post subject: Re: Losing Polyphony?

ozdaniel(AD) · Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 12:37 am Post subject:

We will never achieve concrete results if we do not come up with examples like the name of that style, what sounds are allocated to UPPER's and LOWER,
what functions in GLOBAL MODE are selected when playing that style!
KORG Pa4x is an extremely powerful tool, but we also need to know some of the possible working elements! Problems can come from multiple elements of knowledge, and here they can give examples; The ROM or RAM sound source, then building the multisamplers in OSC's and so on, we can continue...
Please give examples with style names and sounds used to make tests, so we can solve these problems!
Personally I have not encountered such polyphony issues and in many cases, i use complicated style as a construction, plus all 4 Pad's, plus 3 Uppers and Lower, plus TC Helicon and I have never had problems with polyphony!
I do not want to think these problems are invented by competitors ...Lately I have seen that they have invaded this forum! Smile

KORG can fix anything but, we have to come up with exact examples to avoid being suspected of sabotage.

Regards
Daniel
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D575 · Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:44 am Post subject:

ozdaniel(AD) · Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:40 am Post subject:

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D575 · Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:15 am Post subject:

ozdaniel(AD) · Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:58 am Post subject:

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kbrkr · Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 12:42 pm Post subject:

[quote="ozdaniel(AD)"][quote="D575"]

D575 · Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 12:49 pm Post subject:

Daniel I am sure you are a master at your craft and i look forward to try your work, thank you in advanced from me...so all I am trying to point out (historicity and currently) is in certain situations in style play mode and using only korg styles with korg sounds all korg supplied and with the use of the ensemble feature engaged this can in certain situations show the polyphony hitting it's limits this can happen in a number of ways according to which style is used in relation to the number of upper and lower parts that are used in relation to what upper parts have ensemble assigned, and this is very noticeable to me and other who have acknowledged this in the past (pa3x) and is also more apparent with some of the new or improved styles of the PA4X, but to say we should "Get use to what we have" (if this is what you may of been implying) then it is difficult to accept and understand when you would simply imagain with the advance of a new and improved model over its predecessor from the same company and where almost every aspect has improved in just about every area to then find the improvements are taking more of the same allocated polyphony seen over from a previous model ? it just strikes me Strange that if the the designers of the pa4x would of know that in certain situations according to a given combination that can be arranged at are disposable they would of not realised the increase needed in polyphony? I struggle to understand they did not think to improve the polyphony in accordance with the rest of the improved design surely this all comes hand in hand ? So unless this can be improved in the way of a software update some how ?? then this is where we are with this model what else can I say other than in many ways it is a really fantastic keyboard..it is just a shame we notice this over sight which in some but not all occasions really does get in the way.. just my humble opinion, so now Daniel I will explore your new set and thank you again Smile

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