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burningbusch Approved Merchant
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1203 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:20 am Post subject: Korg Grandstage (Released) |
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Intro Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpSmZkr01i8
Six APs: Berlin, Heidelberg, Austria, Japan, as well as a newly sampled Italian grand piano, Upright.
"Responding to the requests of numerous professional players, the Grandstage also provides monaural piano sounds for all of these acoustic piano programs. These monaural piano sounds were voiced not from a mono mix of stereo samples but from monaurally recorded sources, and will shine clearly even within a band's mix."
Eight velocity layer clavs (all pickups), Looks like new Pianet sample as well.
Examples:
Main PIano
https://soundcloud.com/korg/dimensions?in=korg/sets/grandstage-sgx-2
German Grand (Mono)
https://soundcloud.com/korg/grand-island?in=korg/sets/grandstage-sgx-2
Italian Grand
https://soundcloud.com/korg/bedtime?in=korg/sets/grandstage-sgx-2
Upright
https://soundcloud.com/korg/blues-feelings?in=korg/sets/grandstage-sgx-2
All APs on Soundcloud
https://soundcloud.com/korg/sets/grandstage-sgx-2
Engines: SGX-2, EP-1, CX3, Vox, Compact, AL-1, HD-1
Weight: 88: 44 lbs; 73: 37.5 lbs
Stand included
Price: 88=$2499; 73=$2299
Busch. _________________ Kronos 73, Nautilus 61, Vox Continental 73, Monologue, Yamaha Montage 8, Rhodes Suitcase, Yamaha VL-1, Roland V-Synth, Yamaha AvantGrand, Minimoog Model D, Studio Electronics Omega 8, CSS, Spitfire, VSL, LASS, Sample Modeling, Ivory, Komplete 12, Spectrasonics, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc.
http://www.purgatorycreek.com
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3126
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:40 am Post subject: |
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There is also a demo from Kraft..
https://youtu.be/yLR8C80C1zs _________________ Korg Kronos 2/88 , Genos, Mainstage3 +VSTsu, ipad pro, GSi Gemini, Roland Integra 7, Jupiter Xm, Yamaha motif XS rack, Ketron SD90.
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xp50player Senior Member
Joined: 20 Jul 2011 Posts: 374 Location: Nashville
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to see the new engines and piano samples ported to the Kronos, even if it is a paid upgrade. I wonder if this GrandStage has any of the EPs from the SV-1, which I much prefer over the Kronos EP-1 stuff. _________________ RD-800, Kronos 61, Fantom 6, MODX6, 01/Wfd |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) |
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burningbusch wrote: | Intro Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpSmZkr01i8
Six APs: Berlin, Heidelberg, Austria, Japan, as well as a newly sampled Italian grand piano, Upright.
"Responding to the requests of numerous professional players, the Grandstage also provides monaural piano sounds for all of these acoustic piano programs. These monaural piano sounds were voiced not from a mono mix of stereo samples but from monaurally recorded sources, and will shine clearly even within a band's mix."
Busch. |
is the Italian a Faz ? It sounds great _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3126
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) |
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GregC wrote: | burningbusch wrote: | Intro Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpSmZkr01i8
Six APs: Berlin, Heidelberg, Austria, Japan, as well as a newly sampled Italian grand piano, Upright.
"Responding to the requests of numerous professional players, the Grandstage also provides monaural piano sounds for all of these acoustic piano programs. These monaural piano sounds were voiced not from a mono mix of stereo samples but from monaurally recorded sources, and will shine clearly even within a band's mix."
Busch. |
is the Italian a Faz ? It sounds great |
If its the same sample set as they used on the pa4x update this week, then it is... _________________ Korg Kronos 2/88 , Genos, Mainstage3 +VSTsu, ipad pro, GSi Gemini, Roland Integra 7, Jupiter Xm, Yamaha motif XS rack, Ketron SD90.
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) |
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Bachus wrote: | GregC wrote: | burningbusch wrote: | Intro Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpSmZkr01i8
Six APs: Berlin, Heidelberg, Austria, Japan, as well as a newly sampled Italian grand piano, Upright.
"Responding to the requests of numerous professional players, the Grandstage also provides monaural piano sounds for all of these acoustic piano programs. These monaural piano sounds were voiced not from a mono mix of stereo samples but from monaurally recorded sources, and will shine clearly even within a band's mix."
Busch. |
is the Italian a Faz ? It sounds great |
If its the same sample set as they used on the pa4x update this week, then it is... |
I hope they did a superb job on sampling the Faz. It would be nice if they make
the Italian Grand available for sale. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3126
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:01 am Post subject: Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) |
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GregC wrote: | Bachus wrote: | GregC wrote: | burningbusch wrote: | Intro Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpSmZkr01i8
Six APs: Berlin, Heidelberg, Austria, Japan, as well as a newly sampled Italian grand piano, Upright.
"Responding to the requests of numerous professional players, the Grandstage also provides monaural piano sounds for all of these acoustic piano programs. These monaural piano sounds were voiced not from a mono mix of stereo samples but from monaurally recorded sources, and will shine clearly even within a band's mix."
Busch. |
is the Italian a Faz ? It sounds great |
If its the same sample set as they used on the pa4x update this week, then it is... |
I hope they did a superb job on sampling the Faz. It would be nice if they make
the Italian Grand available for sale. |
That would be nice..
Also the 2 new organ engines are looking promissing... and there is some new improved effects inside. _________________ Korg Kronos 2/88 , Genos, Mainstage3 +VSTsu, ipad pro, GSi Gemini, Roland Integra 7, Jupiter Xm, Yamaha motif XS rack, Ketron SD90.
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Broadwave Platinum Member
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 1118 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Korg Grandstage (Released) |
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Bachus wrote: |
Also the 2 new organ engines are looking promising... and there is some new improved effects inside. |
It would be great if these were available for the Kronos - I use the Arturia Vox quite a bit, but having them both immediately on hand would be a great bonus. _________________ Synth DIY Projects |
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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1279 Location: Wales, UK
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Scott Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1013
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:34 am Post subject: |
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xp50player wrote: | I wonder if this GrandStage has any of the EPs from the SV-1, which I much prefer over the Kronos EP-1 stuff. |
Well, it doesn't have the same drive/amp emulations with the tube, so at least that much will be different. Also, the "Japanese" and the "Italian" Korgs generally differ in their underlying technologies (i.e. the SV1/PAx sound engine is different from its Kronos or other workstation equivalents), so I think that would be another source of difference. Maybe I missed something, but I haven't seen any indication that the Grandstage includes any EP sounds/functions that were not in the Kronos. |
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phattbuzz Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Posts: 790 Location: NH USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if this is meant to replace the SV-1. It has a similar set up with the effects section but no tube. I'm also surprised they only went for a damper instead of a three pedal system. The ability to change to different engines is cool, but once you are there it doesn't appear that you can do much to change the sound. If I am playing Hammond I want to be able to fiddle with the drawbars and change the Leslie speed. The addition of the Vox and Farfisa modelling is great and I hope that it can be transferred to the Kronos, while, of course, being able to access all the controls on the original instruments.
If I had to choose between the SV-1 and this, it would come down to a price point and weight issue. It is very cool that they have more than one sampled piano (yes, I know that the SGX-2 is not just a sample player, but that's where it's sounds start). If they could bring down the price far below the SV-1 and cut the weight as well, I might think about it just for the pianos (If I didn't already have an SV-1).
Between the Kronos and this: Not a Kronos Killer. _________________ Latest Set Up: Kronos 61, Casio Privia, Korg TR61, EoWave Ribbon, Roli Rise 48, TEC Breath Controller, StudioLogic MP-117 Bass Pedals, Moog Theremini.
Past Instruments of Construction: Hammond A100 w/Leslie 760, Korg R3, Roland AxSynth, Korg Poly61, Korg M1, Univox MaxiKorg, Korg MS2000, (2) Moog Concertmate MG1, (2) Hammond X5, Rhodes Mark I & 2, Farfisa Compact, Yamaha S08, Casio SK1, Strymon Mobius, Custom Bass Pedals, Burns B3 Theremin. |
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Scott Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1013
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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phattbuzz wrote: | I wonder if this is meant to replace the SV-1. |
No... much higher price.
phattbuzz wrote: | It has a similar set up with the effects section but no tube. |
It's actually much more limited than the SV-1 in its effects section. But it does have a lot of advantages over the SV1 as well. Many more sounds (500 vs. 44), splits/layers, mod/pitch wheel, more "favorite" locations (64 vs , smooth sound transition (held/sustaining sounds don't cut off when you change sounds), wider range of sampled pianos (and much larger sets of sample data for those pianos).
phattbuzz wrote: | If I am playing Hammond I want to be able to fiddle with the drawbars and change the Leslie speed. |
The pitch bend wheel alters rotary speed on the Hammond patches. No drawbar fiddling. Though each program has 4 editable parameters, which vary with the program. It's possible that Korg may have assigned drawbar control to some of those. Obviously, you won't get all 9, but you might have some control. We'll see...
phattbuzz wrote: | If I had to choose between the SV-1 and this, it would come down to a price point and weight issue. |
Price is more, weight is close.
phattbuzz wrote: | It is very cool that they have more than one sampled piano |
In case you didn't know, the SV1 does have two... I believe a Steinway and a Yamaha. I think the alternate piano is in one of the soundpacks, you have to install it.
phattbuzz wrote: | Between the Kronos and this: Not a Kronos Killer. |
And not designed to be. This is a far more limited board. But it's also a lot less money (over a grand less), and noticeably smaller/lighter (with comparable action), and with much simpler overall operation. It's for a different customer. And besides, I don't think Korg is looking for the Kronos to be killed yet.
For reference, 73key/88key...
SV1 = 1499/1699
GS = 2299/2499
Kronos = 3399/3699 |
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Kevin Nolan Approved Merchant
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 2524 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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So it's essentially a Kronos without the screen, some synth engines and workstation features.
All fine but - RH3??
On a - _Digital Piano_ ?? |
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Scott Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1013
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Kevin Nolan wrote: | So it's essentially a Kronos without the screen, some synth engines and workstation features. |
It's missing lots of other stuff... aftertouch, ribbon, ability to load your own samples, ability to edit all the parameters of the sounds, most MIDI controller functions, ability to save more than 64 of your own sounds, ability to split/layer more than two sounds at a time...
Kevin Nolan wrote: | but - RH3??
On a - _Digital Piano_ ?? |
It's the best hammer action Korg has. |
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SanderXpander Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:24 am Post subject: |
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I don't really get the point of launching two new organ engines without drawbar control. They might as well have been sample sets. Other than that I kinda like it! |
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