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deora Full Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2010 Posts: 128
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:08 am Post subject: Pa1000 vs Pa3x |
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I have a PA3x and am considering changing to a Pa1000
Would love to hear a comparison of
- On board styles and sounds
- Ability to load on additional sampled sounds
- Functionality and features
- Size and weight
- Any other comments |
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3595 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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As I've written in Pa4X section , regardless of obvious new OS extra features , better 24b DAC and 44Mb extra
Ram space pros , the fact of 2 lacking features , Fill tabs and EC5 port , automatically downgrades this arranger
to Pa900 amateur category ... _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
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Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V |
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dimitris Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jul 2002 Posts: 1661 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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88mb extra compressed memory... _________________ KORG PA5X 76 + PaAS - KORG PA1000 (NEW) -KORG NAUTILUS 73 (NEW) - KORG EK-50 - KAWAI VPC1 |
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Korg Fan #1 Junior Member
Joined: 31 May 2016 Posts: 69
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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The pa3x pros- Has better(and possibly more) keys, Fill buttons, ec5 port, 4 outputs, xlr input, better vocal effects, midi through, Ribbon controller, Sliders, more buttons, more space
Pa1000 Pros- bigger buttons, rubber buttons, better screen, updated sounds, more portable, speakers, Built in guitar effects, KAOSS, looks more sleek
this is all I could think of offhand |
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Fransman Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 1095 Location: Netherlands (PA4X61+PAas. Past: PA3X, PA800, Y PSR-S910, PA500, T KN1000, Y PSR-16)
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Deora, I'm in the same boat.
Before I make my decision, I want to test the PA1000, but I do think I'll probably end up buying one.
PA4X is too expensive for me, and PA1000 is in many respects a step up from PA3X.
With all the newest Korg technology and most recent style compatibility this is almost a no brainer to me.
I've done some research and the price in the Netherlands will be below 2000 euro.
Still a lot of money, but waaaay less then PA4X.
I almost can't wait till the end of november, when it will be available in Dutch stores.
I'm looking forward to play this new toy (I'm a hobbyist, not a pro). _________________ Musical grtz, Frans
Play in style. |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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If anyone has any clue...how would the PA1000 pair to the older PA800, 1X
or even before that the PA80...since it is a lower level model then the PA3,4X?
In the other news, the PA1000 has no FillIn buttons? Come again? _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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Korg Fan #1 Junior Member
Joined: 31 May 2016 Posts: 69
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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The sounds are probably going to kick the pa800, etc. If you think the fill buttons, weighted keys, sliders, 76 keys, etc. are more important than sound......Its your call. Also the pa1000 has a lot of fetures that the old keyboard don't have: KAOSS, colored screen, better screen, more fills, more memory, DNC, more/better effects, etc...... But in the end of the day its about what suits your needs better |
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alina Junior Member
Joined: 15 Sep 2015 Posts: 95
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Fransman wrote: | Deora, I'm in the same boat.
Before I make my decision, I want to test the PA1000, but I do think I'll probably end up buying one.
PA4X is too expensive for me, and PA1000 is in many respects a step up from PA3X.
With all the newest Korg technology and most recent style compatibility this is almost a no brainer to me.
I've done some research and the price in the Netherlands will be below 2000 euro.
Still a lot of money, but waaaay less then PA4X.
I almost can't wait till the end of november, when it will be available in Dutch stores.
I'm looking forward to play this new toy (I'm a hobbyist, not a pro). |
Agree with you Frans.
I've been considering the Pa4x ever since it came out, but I just can't afford it. I've had the Pa900 for 3 years now, and I'm thinking of buying the Pa1000.
I wonder when it will be available in Romania.
Can't wait! _________________ Korg Pa1000 |
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alina Junior Member
Joined: 15 Sep 2015 Posts: 95
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Korg Fan #1 wrote: | The sounds are probably going to kick the pa800, etc. If you think the fill buttons, weighted keys, sliders, 76 keys, etc. are more important than sound......Its your call. Also the pa1000 has a lot of fetures that the old keyboard don't have: KAOSS, colored screen, better screen, more fills, more memory, DNC, more/better effects, etc...... But in the end of the day its about what suits your needs better |
The Pa900 doesn't have fill buttons either. Would be nice to have, but I got used to the 2 button press for selecting fills. _________________ Korg Pa1000 |
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3595 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:02 am Post subject: |
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alina wrote: | I got used to the 2 button press for selecting fills. | Then surely go for a Pa1000 !
For complex performing , the fact of using 2 buttons for a fill is too much to caught up the manipulation of a real time
played song when simultaneously STS/KBD SET and Variation buttons must be also pressed in a very short time period
not to mention the "bridge" of song's notes that must be played at this time !
"One man band" users like me , know exactly what do I mean !
alina wrote: | I've been considering the Pa4x ever since it came out, but I just can't afford it. I've had the Pa900
for 3 years now, and I'm thinking of buying the Pa1000. | Pa1000 is targeting mostly Pa600/900 users and this
will be a major upgrade for them that is close to Pa4X features.
Pa3X users definitely could afford its price , so their first upgrade option is Pa4X !
Equation of topic's title is simple : Pa4X vs Pa1000 = Pa3X vs Pa900 _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V
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alina Junior Member
Joined: 15 Sep 2015 Posts: 95
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:27 am Post subject: |
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AntonySharmman wrote: | Then surely go for a Pa1000 ! |
I surely will!
AntonySharmman wrote: | Pa3X users definitely could afford its price , so their first upgrade option is Pa4X ! |
You know Antony, I think you're right.
I wanted the Pa3X in 2014, but ended up with the Pa900. So this time it will be the same. _________________ Korg Pa1000 |
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Fransman Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 1095 Location: Netherlands (PA4X61+PAas. Past: PA3X, PA800, Y PSR-S910, PA500, T KN1000, Y PSR-16)
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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So Professional Arranger 1000 is only good enough for amateurs...
Maybe Korg should rename the lower keyboards AA instead of PA then.
The price of PA4X has even gone up in recent months; it's now 3.599 euro without the PAas. It was about 3.200 euro ever since it's launch.
(some extra cashing for Version 2 maybe?).
PA1000 is now targeted at 1.999 euros by some stores.
The distributor in the Netherlands has confirmed me that price target.
So price difference is 1.600 (!) euro and even more if you also (need to) buy a PAas speaker with it (or other speakers).
That is a huge price difference. You could easily add a high end extra like for instance a Roland Integra to your set up and still keep some money in your pocket... _________________ Musical grtz, Frans
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nitecrawler Platinum Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 975 Location: from a mile high to the the AZ desert
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Fransman wrote: | So Professional Arranger 1000 is only good enough for amateurs...
Maybe Korg should rename the lower keyboards AA instead of PA then.
The price of PA4X has even gone up in recent months; it's now 3.599 euro without the PAas. It was about 3.200 euro ever since it's launch.
(some extra cashing for Version 2 maybe?).
PA1000 is now targeted at 1.999 euros by some stores.
The distributor in the Netherlands has confirmed me that price target.
So price difference is 1.600 (!) euro and even more if you also (need to) buy a PAas speaker with it (or other speakers).
That is a huge price difference. You could easily add a high end extra like for instance a Roland Integra to your set up and still keep some money in your pocket... |
+1 _________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=807494
Montage M7, Pa5x76, Nautilus, PA3Xle, Oasys 76, Mini-Moog, EMU Audity 2000, Motion Sound KBR 3D amp, Presonus and Reaper DAW W/Tannoy Reveal 501A powered monitors |
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adimatis Senior Member
Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 284 Location: oradea, romania
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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alina wrote: |
I wonder when it will be available in Romania.
Can't wait! |
Salut Alina.
It will probably be available as soon as the rest of Europe will have it. The first "sample" batch went out, but the commercial availability is end of September it seems. As always with new models the first production batches are calibrated and will dictate the next ones depending on the preorders. _________________ "Many people take the bad management for destiny!" - Kin Hubbard |
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Fransman Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 1095 Location: Netherlands (PA4X61+PAas. Past: PA3X, PA800, Y PSR-S910, PA500, T KN1000, Y PSR-16)
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:09 am Post subject: |
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... and then I went to a store, played on a PA4X with OS V2 and instantly fell in love with it.
Bought a brand new one, installed it in my home and will enjoy it every minute from now on.
This instrument is soooo good and even way better than I expected.
I think I would have been OK with PA1000 also, but having had a PA3X, I'v got used to the quality of materials and keys.
Awesome, I don't think I will regret my (expensive) purchase. _________________ Musical grtz, Frans
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