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Fransman
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| karmathanever wrote: |
I have a principle now not to buy when released but always wait 12-18 months - the OS and the price tends to settle in that time.
The PA4X is so amazing that for me to go to 5X (or whatever they call it) it would almost have to be a complete re-design - |
Completely against my principles, I'm planning to go to 5X as soon as it will be released!
I'm completely and utterly content with my superb 4X, enjoying it every day, but imagine what 5X will be....
I want to enjoy that to the max! Life's too short, you know...
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karmathanever
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| Quote: | | I'm planning to go to 5X as soon as it will be released! |
I'd love to be able to afford that !!!! 
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Bachus
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| karmathanever wrote: | | Quote: | | I'm planning to go to 5X as soon as it will be released! |
I'd love to be able to afford that !!!! |
i think you still have a year to save up for that ..
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ebuzer52
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| karmathanever wrote: | | Quote: | | I'm planning to go to 5X as soon as it will be released! |
I'd love to be able to afford that !!!! |
Dear Karmathanever, in recent days i see discount of prices of Pa4x on some selling dealers. Could it be a harbinger of Pa5x or Pa X? So, 2019 is coming and also i often hear new device rumors from my close Korg programmer who lives in Japan. IMO, Pa4x falls out of sight¿¿ |
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karmathanever
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For us here, the PA-series prices always seem to drop after the initial 12-18 months.
I don't necessarily think it is indicative of a new model in the immediate future.
BUT, like everyone else (except Korg) I really don't know.
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ebuzer52
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| karmathanever wrote: |
BUT, like everyone else (except Korg) I really don't know.
Cheers
Pete |
Thanks for reply. A special question to you, have you ever been tested Yamaha Genos? if yes, what did you feel according to 4x? |
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Fransman
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| karmathanever wrote: | | Quote: | | I'm planning to go to 5X as soon as it will be released! |
I'd love to be able to afford that !!!! |
When I have a look at your musical gear (PA4X-76, Kronos, Integra), you could afford quite something in the past....
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Bachus
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ebuzer52 wrote: | | karmathanever wrote: |
BUT, like everyone else (except Korg) I really don't know.
Cheers
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Thanks for reply. A special question to you, have you ever been tested Yamaha Genos? if yes, what did you feel according to 4x? |
While the Genos has a lot to offer (interface, screen, arps, knobs, ensemble, sa2, hige dsp power) the Pa4x is still the more complete, is a real workstation (editing) and has more direct controll..
Soundwise, they both sound great...
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karmathanever
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| ebuzer52 wrote: | | A special question to you, have you ever been tested Yamaha Genos? if yes, what did you feel according to 4x? |
Hi ebuzer52
Very happy to answer your question but these are my personal views:-
I played the Genos for a long time a little while ago and intentionally checked out the things that "concerned me" and also was needed by me.
Firstly, I was VERY excited about Genos thinking that lazy old Yamaha had actually come up with a "NEW" arranger but, not so. Genos is simply a Tyros 6. I compared the Tyros manual with Genos manual too - almost copy & paste. The Tyros (which I owned) had many things not suitable for me and so Genos is now in that same category. So from actually playing Genos:-
I completely disliked the keybed and found it to feel "short-fall" and hard.
B3-Leslie emulation (which is important to me) is worse than the Tyros.
I hate registrations trying to remember "numbers" - this is where the PA4X is so much more conducive to performing and recording.
Super Articulation on Tyros/Genos is nice but mostly uncontrollable
Vocal processor is just about unusable for me - check out this sweet lady's performance in particular around 1:10 (and other places) - this is exactly what happened on my PSRs910 and Tyros - Yamaha say they've improved the VP but I'm not so sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzfX2VjkLPs
It still has no tempo lock
It still has no intelligent chord fingering
It has no instantly accessible Bass Inversion toggle
It has no multi-switch pedal facility like EC5
It has no set-list feature
Styles are still too basic and don't seem to have much chord variation technology (intros and endings are great though)
It does have some nice sounds but then so does my PA4X, Kronos AND CASIO!!! (That's all very subjective anyway)
Rear line-out ports will not take "L-shaped" jacks due to casing design
Touch-screen is nice (at last!!)
Joystick is nice (at last!!!)
I still think Yamaha have kept this in the "play-at-home-around-the-Christmas-tree" category.
Anyhow, I do not want the above to kick-off another Korg vs. Yamaha war - just respectfully answering your question.
Cheers
Pete
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Asena
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Well Something is on thats for sure, I,m in USA 24/1 so we,l see
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Bachus
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| Asena wrote: | | Well Something is on thats for sure, I,m in USA 24/1 so we,l see |
IF something is on at korg in Januar at NAMM, i am pretty much sure its a new Kronos follow-up workstation of some sort..
I don't expect anything arranger related till Frankfurt..
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ebuzer52
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| karmathanever wrote: | Very happy to answer your question but these are my personal views:-
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Karmathanever, thanks very much brother for theese very valuable " personal" minds. i really became happy. i was informed about Genos more or less. This detailed informations really opened my mind, and i watched video on your post, that was awfull, catastrophic and harm to mind. As if the singer turns into an alien Approximately for 10 years, i am a user of Korg and thought to add a Yamaha studio next to my Pa4x and Kronos 2, but i realised that i will have to wait a little longer for development of Yamaha Keyboards.
For all, thanks again very much. ( Sorry for my poor English :[ ) |
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mabcomp
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| Sam CA wrote: | | Synthee wrote: | ...
Europa is the name of our continent, its not Europe as you americans spell it wrongly. |
I'll make sure to bring this up in my appearance before the senate next week! |
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Niki_Keyz
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Will somebody please give us some good news or updates. just waiting around to see if there is anymore information or leaks on a new arranger. |
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Bachus
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Niki_Keyz wrote: | | Will somebody please give us some good news or updates. just waiting around to see if there is anymore information or leaks on a new arranger. |
Expecting a new high end korg arranger before musicmesse, just seems illogical..
My best bet is still late 2019
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