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kirikl



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:22 pm    Post subject: TR Rack or Triton Rack? Reply with quote

Hello guys!
I'm an ex-owner of Classic Trinity. Have tons of SNG files and converted Midi versions. My thoughts was recently to buy Triton rack and convert SNG to Triton and load them over floppy. But recently I found out TR rack can play midi files over the cable. As I remember Midi doesn't store info about effects and stuff it stores in SNG, right?
Ok, task is:
To play SNG or Midi files as close as possible to actual Instrument. But without having one, too big for my studio and I already have everything set up with Roland A49 midi keyboard.
Question: What is better TR Rack or Triton Rack for that purpose? Triton is more advanced of course, you can add more ram, SCSI... But at the end I'm not sure I need all that stuff. Years passed and maybe I will not use it often even! On the other hand if I buy TR I will be limited to Midi file versions only which is I don't even know how to operate from computer to put all the effects back to life, let's say in a link with Cakewalk for example?
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samriccijr
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Joined: 01 Jan 2004
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Location: usa nj

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi kirikl!

I worked with Trinity, TR-Rack, Le, Triton Rack and Karma.
I looked into this too..

I recorded my songs as audio files.
I play them from my phone.
Sounds great and works every time....

Keep the Trinity if the screen is good.
Get the TR- Rack if you prefer the voicing.

Check Michael’s PCG Tools application, it might help you.

Regarding Trinity and TR-Rack:

I assume your SNG files have multiple songs in them, and the songs each have custom effects routings. You might have 100 Songs in 10 SNG files and play 40 songs a night on a gig.

When you you save your Songs as Midi files you lose the effects settings.

The Tr-Rack has only one multi slot. The multi contains the program and effects settings for the 16 channels (this is equivalent to the 1st Song of a SNG file without the sequencer data). You can sysex dump the multi settings between he TR-rack and your computer. You can also sysex send programs and combis between the Trinity and the TR-Rack.

I could not dump SNGs from the Trinity to the TR-Rack I could not syx dump a SNG from the computer to the Tr Rack either. I did not try to dump a TR-Rack multi to the Trinity.

You might be able to
Syx dump a SNG file from the Trinity to your computer
Use a hex editor to extract the program and effects portion
Format the extracted syx into TR Rack Multi format
Dump the new syx file to the TR-Rack or insert that in your midi file.
You sounds and effects would be preserved
You can play them from any sequencer.

Regarding Trinity and Triton:

The SNG formats are incompatible.
If you load your midi files into the Triton
You have to reassign similar programs
And recreate your effects routings

This is easy in the Triton but takes time.

I hope this helps.

Sam in NJ USA
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samriccijr
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Location: usa nj

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi kirikl!

I worked with Trinity, TR-Rack, Le, Triton Rack and Karma.
I looked into this too..

I recorded my songs as audio files.
I play them from my phone.
Sounds great and works every time....

Keep the Trinity if the screen is good.
Get the Trinity Rack if you prefer the voicing.

Check Michael’s PCG Tools application, it might help you.

Regarding Trinity and TR-Rack:

I assume your SNG files have multiple songs in them, and the songs each have custom effects routings. You might have 100 Songs in 10 SNG files and play 40 songs a night on a gig.

When you you save your Songs as Midi files you lose the effects settings.

The Tr-Rack has only one multi slot. The multi contains the program and effects settings for the 16 channels (this is equivalent to the 1st Song of a SNG file without the sequencer data). You can sysex dump the multi settings between he TR-rack and your computer. You can also sysex send programs and combis between the Trinity and the TR-Rack.

I could not dump SNGs from the Trinity to the TR-Rack I could not syx dump a SNG from the computer to the Tr Rack either. I did not try to dump a TR-Rack multi to the Trinity.

You might be able to
Syx dump a SNG file from the Trinity to your computer
Use a hex editor to extract the program and effects portion
Format the extracted syx into TR Rack Multi format
Dump the new syx file to the TR-Rack or insert that in your midi file.
You sounds and effects would be preserved
You can play them from any sequencer.

Regarding Trinity and Triton:

The SNG formats are incompatible.
If you load your midi files into the Triton
You have to reassign similar programs
And recreate your effects routings

This is easy in the Triton but takes time.

I hope this helps.

Sam in NJ USA
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