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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Pelican4 wrote: | Are you implying that I could export a track from the PA4X, edit it on the computer if I felt the need, and import it back to the keyboard? |
Yes. You can record on MIDI and export to your liking DAW for editing.
I can share briefly my experiences with Pa4X after 3 years of using in live performance every week.
It is a very versatile arranger keyboard with powerful Style editing and very practical features for live performances and
very good quality keybed (for an arranger key) and Tactile display of Pa4X for avoiding light's reflection on the stage.
Software speaking we will have a new version of OS called "NEXT", in February of this year, with new features and
increased User PCM RAM Memory up to 1.5 GB, (compressed equivalent to 3 GB linear data).
What I didn't like and hope an improvement for the next Pa series by Korg:
Bad quality of the buttons like Intros, Variations, Break and Ends buttons.
So far I spent about $200 for replacing the Variations buttons and soon I have to spend other extra $$ for replacing again the Exit, Fills and Break buttons.
Other problem for me personally is the bad quality of MP3 recording comparing to my previous Pa1X witch was excellent in MP3 recording.
Personally I was not lucky in this area but it's possible to do MIDI recording/sequencing and export it and finishing in a DAW. |
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Pelican4
Joined: 30 Jan 2019 Posts: 20 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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That's disappointing about the buttons.
I wonder if an update will help the MP3 recording.
I suppose some people do everything with software but that sounds difficult if I was playing live. It sounds useful to export tracks into a DAW and then import them back into the Korg for performance. _________________ Kurzweil PC3K6
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Pelican4
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:22 pm Post subject: Rom use |
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Vangelismusic wrote: | The PA4X has Oriental sounds that are permanent in ROM so you still have the same memory as a standard PA4x, if you are not into Oriental music you do not need to spend the extra money which is over 1000 bucks extra, now with the new free upgrade that Korg will have available soon,you will get a lot of memory to expand it to include many sets because it will be from 800 megabytes to 3 gigabytes.
You can load many sets into the keyboard but it's not as simple as just drag and drop like windows it is a more elaborate to execute. |
[/quote] _________________ Kurzweil PC3K6
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Pelican4
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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karmathanever wrote: | ROM is "Read Only Memory" and hence in theory cannot be used like RAM (Random Access Memory).
The ROMs will be erasable so Korg can "update" the fixed multisample sounds but we cannot change them.
All SOUNDs are purely sound configurations which use one or more multisamples (from ROM or from actual user-loaded samples in RAM).
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Pelican4
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:35 pm Post subject: Rom use |
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The Oriental sounds are stored on the ROM which, on the Standard version, is empty.
If the extra money is not a factor, is there an advantage to having the ROM empty in the Standard PA4x, i.e., is the ROM used in the Standard PA4x for other functions? Would these functions be limited by being full of sounds as in the Oriental and Musikant? Is the ROM used for updating or will more functions be added in the future that will not be possible if the ROM is full?
Thank you. _________________ Kurzweil PC3K6
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Pelican4
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. They are good demonstrations that make me want to get the Oriental version. I don't know how buttons could be improved for the constance
I'm not sure if the quality of the MP3 recording is important or if the ability to record WAV is necessary but they would be good. Is WAV recording something expensive to add?
Is the PA4x designed for recording full songs as one of its main functions or is this an extra? I think of it as normally for live use. _________________ Kurzweil PC3K6
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:31 am Post subject: |
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I think the MP3 recording feature has always been a "bonus" (although very useful to have)
If one wants to audio record seriously, then MP3 is not the best way to go - WAV is of course far better quality.
You can easily record WAV by simply using an audio interface to your computer with free software like Audacity
The interfaces are well under $100.
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Pelican4
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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That is what I thought.
I don't know why it would be important to record WAV with the keyboard as DAW is usually the end process anyway.
I have to ask now.
I was going to wait until buttons on the PA4X have improved and maybe for other upgrades.
As I'm trying to save money, other smaller things are coming up for sale.
How is the Arranging ability of the PA4X when live? Kurzweil has the Arranging Mode where it is possible to choose pre-arranged parts to use within the performance at any time. With an Arranger Keyboard, I expect I can do this more easily than with other keyboards. I would like to know how many sections you can make within a song that can be selected at any time.
I was looking for a keyboard with good sequencer and Yamaha MOXF comes at a very low cost this week. It also has a lot of arpeggiators which I like.
I imagine the sounds on the Yamaha, being 5 years older, are not as good as Korg so that is not a question. Korg will also have more variety. How flexible do people find the sequencer on the PA4X?
I'm feeling very close to getting it but am wanting to understand if I can do most of the arranging with the keyboards I already have. The PA4X keybed amazes me so I'm leaning towards it but the cost is about $2000 more than I think it should be. _________________ Kurzweil PC3K6
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Pelican4
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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Vangelismusic wrote: | The PA4X has Oriental sounds that are permanent in ROM so you still have the same memory as a standard PA4x, if you are not into Oriental music you do not need to spend the extra money which is over 1000 bucks extra, now with the new free upgrade that Korg will have available soon,you will get a lot of memory to expand it to include many sets because it will be from 800 megabytes to 3 gigabytes.
You can load many sets into the keyboard but it's not as simple as just drag and drop like windows it is a more elaborate to execute. |
Hi.
Suppose I can get the Oriental version for the same price as the Standard version: I do like the Oriental sounds but from looking through the list, I will only use a tenth of them. I am assuming that future upgrades will allow certain similar sets of sounds to be added into the memory, meaning I could choose the particular sounds. As you say, not simple but possible.
Is there any advantage of having the Standard version which has the memory free instead of having the memory full with the Oriental sounds of the PA4x Oriental version?
Thank you. _________________ Kurzweil PC3K6
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Pelican4
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:49 am Post subject: |
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I thought I could get the Oriental but they say Korg aren’t making them anymore and so I can’t order one for the sale that is happening here.
Are all the same scale making capabilities available in the Standard version? _________________ Kurzweil PC3K6
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